Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
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@johnlorimer @annika Such a shame, when something we enjoy gets destroyed like that. So much AI asbestos has been stuffed into the walls of the internet.
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@johnlorimer @annika Haha - thank you
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@beecycling Agreed. I wince every time I see someone attempt a purity test or a Gotcha! on someone who has chosen The Wrong Open-Source Solution for some extremely niche problematic reason that the complainer has worked hard to find in the weeds.
Good point about reasons for not deleting previous accounts. And some don't delete them because they've lost easy access, maybe it was created with a long-gone mail address, so it's easier to just leave it there, unused and defunct.
@CiaraNi One thing I found when I was figuring out whether to delete my Twitter or not was that there was a sort of dormant state you could put it in, but you couldn't use two factor authentication on that, making it much less secure. So keeping it fully alive but just not using it, or fully deleting it are the best options.
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@CiaraNi That "someone at Proton once said something" sums up so much. There is no winning with some people. We know everything is problematic if you look hard enough. Short of going off grid and living in a cabin in the woods, we've all got to work out our own compromises until things improve.
And some people keep their Twitter accounts so nobody else can use the name and potentially impersonate them. I see no problem in that. I deleted mine, but I see why some people don't.
@beecycling @CiaraNi Most cabins in the woods are built from unsustainable wood by underpaid workers...
/s
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@psneeze That someone would be me, if they pronounced it Skon, not scone-rhymes-with-Eoghan
@CiaraNi I once met someone in Bolivia who was describing that his name was spelled the 'standard way', e o g h a n, which made me chuckle no end
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@CiaraNi @bleistifterin @rgarner amateurs tea is supposed to hurt, teaspoon of loose leaves, boil for a min and steep for at least 5. The best pull is the stuff that is forgotten for a day at the bottom in the swamp of leaves, almost opaque, caffeine content over 9000, bitter like the soul of a 16y old goth who just got dumped
@Primavera @bleistifterin @rgarner
"bitter like the soul of a 16y old goth who just got dumped"
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Ditto:
'Why are you still on Bluesky too?'
'But did you *delete* your Twitter account?'
’You said you switched to Proton mail too, oh that’s bad, once someone at Proton said something’
It’s nice to see new neighbours move into the Fediverse. It feels unwelcoming to see people immediately interview them about the purity of their intentions. Or telling them You’re Doing It Wrong. They've just arrived on a journey away from Big Tech. Maybe they'd prefer to be offered a seat and a cup of tea.
@CiaraNi very good point.
to everybody in that situation welcome!
would you like green tea, chamomile, delete your facebook account, or coffee?
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@Primavera @bleistifterin @rgarner
"bitter like the soul of a 16y old goth who just got dumped"
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@franco_vazza Agreed. It does seem a bit elitarian, like people gatekeeping. And agreed, very much agreed, about people badgering others about alt text and content warnings and the like. Newcomers tend to pick up the idea of using Alt Text naturally after a short while, in my experience, because many people 'lead by example', not because they harangue one another about it.
@CiaraNi I hereby confess and repent the fact that I am just too lazy to add alt text in a consistent way to the many videos and plots I show of my research activity, because I still think it's a casual posting and i am not committing to build something consistently made for the public
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@psneeze Yes it is! I can't believe there are people who walk this earth saying Skon Skon Skon.
@CiaraNi I say skon. It's the correct way, a northern hill to die on.
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@CiaraNi I'm glad to read that. While I've not introduced myself yet (this might count as such), I am joining the fediverse not by running away from other alternatives but as first experience overall. As it's patently obvious, I'm on the "default" server for two reasons: learn how all this works and to avoid encapsulating in a community where I might not feel well around. Mind you, I have diverse interests and some servers seem to frown upon joining if you not share, as its main, theirs
@lenotaire @CiaraNi welcome, introduction not, now here are 407 rules to follow...
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@CiaraNi One thing I found when I was figuring out whether to delete my Twitter or not was that there was a sort of dormant state you could put it in, but you couldn't use two factor authentication on that, making it much less secure. So keeping it fully alive but just not using it, or fully deleting it are the best options.
@beecycling Interesting. I didn't know about the dormant state. Good to know.
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@beecycling Interesting. I didn't know about the dormant state. Good to know.
@CiaraNi It could have changed by now, since that was back in 2022. But I wouldn't put money on Musk prioritising making it more secure. Especially if it did anything to stop his minions actually stealing accounts, as he's threatened to do in the past when brands decided to stop using Twitter.
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi I signed up on mastodon.social because it seemed the obvious choice, and because the explanations of servers and "instances" were invariably written from an unhelpful technical point of view with no explanation of why any of that had any impact on me, and because I could find no information about the support capabilities and average lifetimes of individual Mastodon servers.
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Ditto:
'Why are you still on Bluesky too?'
'But did you *delete* your Twitter account?'
’You said you switched to Proton mail too, oh that’s bad, once someone at Proton said something’
It’s nice to see new neighbours move into the Fediverse. It feels unwelcoming to see people immediately interview them about the purity of their intentions. Or telling them You’re Doing It Wrong. They've just arrived on a journey away from Big Tech. Maybe they'd prefer to be offered a seat and a cup of tea.
@CiaraNi Ha. The instance I first landed on, on arriving in the Fediverse, was so inclusive yet protective of its users it was a severe culture shock and left me reeling. I was left to find my feet and when I moved to less protective environments more to my taste I had the fullest Fediverse etiquette training you could get. I’m not naming them cos there’s lots of vulnerable people there that prefer to feel safe.
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@CiaraNi I'm on .social. When I joined Mastodon a few weeks ago I didn't know about anything about all the different servers and how to join them.
Now I know a tiny bit more, but I've yet to deside if I'm moving and where to move to.
@lykkebrammer I hope nobody issued instructions to you about moving! I can think of nothing more tiring, just having arrived and unpacked and not even looked around, only to be told 'you're in the wrong neighbourhhood, pack your stuff and move'.
I am happy in my neighbourhood (mastodon-green) so never considered moving, but I don't fancy the idea, to be honest, because you can't take your existing posts and conversations with you.
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi thats how i ended up trapped in this mess. I want my wings back!
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@JadziaMD Exactly. Agreed!
