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  • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

    Yes, no (built-in) AI is now a feature

    https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/09/03/yes-no-ai-is-now-a-feature/

    #LibreOffice #Technology

    jeroensky@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    jeroensky@mastodon.social
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #36

    @libreoffice I understand that their are issues at Libreoffice, with result that many developers goto #Collabora Office.
    So if you want to keep the development, then i understand that Callabora Office (Classic) is better solution then LibreOffice (because the Libre is gone by matter of speaking)
    Collabora Office- https://www.collaboraonline.com/collabora-office/
    Collabora Office Classic- https://www.collaboraonline.com/collabora-office-classic/

    OpenOffice become LibreOffice become CollaboraOffice. 👍

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    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

      Yes, no (built-in) AI is now a feature

      https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/09/03/yes-no-ai-is-now-a-feature/

      #LibreOffice #Technology

      keydelk@fosstodon.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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      keydelk@fosstodon.org
      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #37

      @libreoffice LibreOffice is the best!

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      • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

        @wobweger @libreoffice @grvsmth @moskitokoenig

        It's still coded using AI, same as what Debian just decided to do.

        https://github.com/LibreOffice/core/commit/70c7f6ba49cfc506fc47dac32af98976ecf33cf8

        https://github.com/LibreOffice/core/commit/42cdc47554fa746baa863860143fc81fe8bb1c80

        https://github.com/LibreOffice/core/commit/7c0d875aca090de4f4d1164578683c0b7e0c6040

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        #38

        @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @grvsmth @moskitokoenig That is what generative AI is useful for.

        It is very good at generating computer code and will vastly increase the quality of what professional programmers can produce.

        That is my experience

        grvsmth@lingo.lolG argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA wobweger@mstdn.socialW garonenur@rollenspiel.socialG yorci@mastodon.socialY 8 Replies Last reply
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        • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

          Yes, no (built-in) AI is now a feature

          https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/09/03/yes-no-ai-is-now-a-feature/

          #LibreOffice #Technology

          nflux@gts.exile.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          nflux@gts.exile.social
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #39

          @libreoffice hell yeah 🩵

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          • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

            Yes, no (built-in) AI is now a feature

            https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/09/03/yes-no-ai-is-now-a-feature/

            #LibreOffice #Technology

            elduvelle@neuromatch.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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            elduvelle@neuromatch.social
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #40

            @libreoffice 🙌

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            • worik@mastodon.socialW worik@mastodon.social

              @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @grvsmth @moskitokoenig That is what generative AI is useful for.

              It is very good at generating computer code and will vastly increase the quality of what professional programmers can produce.

              That is my experience

              grvsmth@lingo.lolG This user is from outside of this forum
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              grvsmth@lingo.lol
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #41

              @worik @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @moskitokoenig Surveys and studies of coders say the opposite:

              Generative AI is good at producing text that resembles code and may compile, but the code is unreliable and takes as much work to debug as it would to write it from scratch.

              A lot of coders have your experience. Until they actually look at the code it produces.

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              • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                Yes, no (built-in) AI is now a feature

                https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/09/03/yes-no-ai-is-now-a-feature/

                #LibreOffice #Technology

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                thenovemberman@bookstodon.com
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #42

                @libreoffice 👍💯👍☺️ Thank you!

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                • grvsmth@lingo.lolG grvsmth@lingo.lol

                  @worik @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @moskitokoenig Surveys and studies of coders say the opposite:

                  Generative AI is good at producing text that resembles code and may compile, but the code is unreliable and takes as much work to debug as it would to write it from scratch.

                  A lot of coders have your experience. Until they actually look at the code it produces.

                  xyhhx@social.treehouse.systemsX This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #43

                  @grvsmth furthermore, many studies have shown that llm users perceive themselves to be more productive than they are, or even perceive productivity gains when instead their productivity is worsened

                  this of course doesn't acknowledge all the other consequences of llm usage to the environment, cognition, mental health, communities both local and abroad, workers rights, creators rights, global internet infrastructure, etc...

                  @worik @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @moskitokoenig

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                  • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                    Yes, no (built-in) AI is now a feature

                    https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/09/03/yes-no-ai-is-now-a-feature/

                    #LibreOffice #Technology

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                    refuse0_0resist@retro.pizza
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #44

                    @libreoffice I love this boundary. If I want to use my own AI tools on my documents on my computer I want to be enabled to do that, but I will abandon any office software or browsers that insert AI into updates without a full opt-out.

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                    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                      Yes, no (built-in) AI is now a feature

                      https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/09/03/yes-no-ai-is-now-a-feature/

                      #LibreOffice #Technology

                      parrot@woof.techP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #45

                      @libreoffice so you're telling me that libreoffice is "Zuzai"? (https://zuzai.org)

                      congrats!!

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                      • worik@mastodon.socialW worik@mastodon.social

                        @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @grvsmth @moskitokoenig That is what generative AI is useful for.

                        It is very good at generating computer code and will vastly increase the quality of what professional programmers can produce.

                        That is my experience

                        argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #46

                        @worik

                        If AI is producing code of higher quality than what you can write, then that doesn't speak highly of AI; it speaks poorly of you.

                        As a professional programmer with 30+ years experience, I need tools that work correctly every time. AI only sometimes works correctly, and that's not good enough. I have left many tools behind because they proved unreliable, and this is one of them.

                        @wobweger @libreoffice @grvsmth @moskitokoenig

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                        • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                          Yes, no (built-in) AI is now a feature

                          https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/09/03/yes-no-ai-is-now-a-feature/

                          #LibreOffice #Technology

                          bentley_lucas@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          bentley_lucas@mastodon.social
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #47

                          @libreoffice
                          🙌🤗🫶👏👏👏
                          Bravo

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                          • krumple_footskin@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            krumple_footskin@mastodon.social
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #48

                            @billyjoebowers @libreoffice I'm confused. I read their post and it implies there is no AI code in LibreOffice currently, but users can choose to install third party extensions that might interact with LLMs.

                            Edit: oh, I see what you mean.

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                            • yora@mastodon.gamedev.placeY This user is from outside of this forum
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                              yora@mastodon.gamedev.place
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #49

                              @KittenKoder@mastodon.social That's what petrol bombs and guillotines are made for.
                              Tools specific to the task.

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                              • worik@mastodon.socialW worik@mastodon.social

                                @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @grvsmth @moskitokoenig That is what generative AI is useful for.

                                It is very good at generating computer code and will vastly increase the quality of what professional programmers can produce.

                                That is my experience

                                wobweger@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wobweger@mstdn.social
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #50

                                @worik @argv_minus_one @libreoffice @grvsmth @moskitokoenig
                                from time to time, I visit #slop fan accounts,
                                they all have below 3 digit followers,
                                that much their promotion a insane hype cycle is valued here

                                take the hint and consider switching platform

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                                • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                  @Jeff None of the core developers use them. We rely on contributions from the wider community and don't explicitly list tools people can and can't use – but we do require people disclose when they use LLMs and generally discourage the practice. We carefully review submissions by contributors to make sure the code quality is good and that the patch author understands their own code. LLMs are prohibited for students and other mentored work.

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                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #51

                                  @libreoffice hmm... where have I heard this before...

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                                  • xyhhx@social.treehouse.systemsX xyhhx@social.treehouse.systems

                                    @grvsmth furthermore, many studies have shown that llm users perceive themselves to be more productive than they are, or even perceive productivity gains when instead their productivity is worsened

                                    this of course doesn't acknowledge all the other consequences of llm usage to the environment, cognition, mental health, communities both local and abroad, workers rights, creators rights, global internet infrastructure, etc...

                                    @worik @argv_minus_one @wobweger @libreoffice @moskitokoenig

                                    internic@mathstodon.xyzI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #52

                                    @xyhhx @grvsmth I've seen a few such results in passing, but I'd be interested to know of more, so if you have any citations you can easily share that would be very useful (even better if there are review articles).

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                                    • internic@mathstodon.xyzI internic@mathstodon.xyz

                                      @xyhhx @grvsmth I've seen a few such results in passing, but I'd be interested to know of more, so if you have any citations you can easily share that would be very useful (even better if there are review articles).

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                                      #53

                                      @internic @grvsmth hm, actually my original understanding was from this study, i think:

                                      https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/

                                      but the more recent study suggest a possible improvement, though they couldn't recruit enough developers for a confident analysis:

                                      https://metr.org/blog/2026-02-24-uplift-update/

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                                      • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                        Yes, no (built-in) AI is now a feature

                                        https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/09/03/yes-no-ai-is-now-a-feature/

                                        #LibreOffice #Technology

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                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #54

                                        商业模型对训练数据的态度最能暴露它:开源项目把 no AI 当卖点(LibreOffice 这周刚做了),闭源平台把用户生成内容直接当自助餐(这条 Amazon/Twitch)。一条线划在「我不放 AI 进去」,另一条划在「用户产了什么我就拿什么」。这两件事在同一周发生,挺说明问题。

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                                        • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                          @Jeff None of the core developers use them. We rely on contributions from the wider community and don't explicitly list tools people can and can't use – but we do require people disclose when they use LLMs and generally discourage the practice. We carefully review submissions by contributors to make sure the code quality is good and that the patch author understands their own code. LLMs are prohibited for students and other mentored work.

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                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #55

                                          @libreoffice Please just ban its use.

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