@nickofnz Even if we do stop using fossil fuels, it's *still* going to keep getting worse for a while. It's just that, by killing the fossil fuel industry, we'd be locking in an end date for things getting worse and then, if we work just a little harder, maybe things can start to actually get *better.*

@greenpeace How did we arrive at "GreenHope"? - because it originates in faith, hope and charity: either, in a nuclear age, you feel free to use any religious law or perhaps you are still respectful, reverential, of approach, supplication etc.