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  • elsass_bear@mastodon.socialE elsass_bear@mastodon.social

    @FediTips
    Nice guide 👍
    I totaly agree with you.

    There's something else bothering me about Mastdon (mainly about dev) Long story short: i tried to make my own server last year, but just can't. Basicaly I wanted to use Mastodon as the activitypub engine, add front-end on top of it. But I had so many issues. The community didn't help, at all.
    I'm starting to think it's on purpose.
    Now i'm coding a full activitypub server, with xmpp userbase.
    I hope more dev will know about AP, XMPP & fedi stuff

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    #38

    @elsass_bear

    There are also many other Fediverse platforms apart from Mastodon, for example GoToSocial is looking pretty good 🙂

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      @elsass_bear

      There are also many other Fediverse platforms apart from Mastodon, for example GoToSocial is looking pretty good 🙂

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      #39

      @FediTips

      Hmmm
      It was tempting at first but i'm not fluent in go 😅
      Also npm or JS stuff server side is a no go for me. So there's that.

      Anyway, enough of my life 🤪
      My point is : mastodon is not what it says it is. It's not for the masses, It's a bit community driven, but not realy, mostly monolitic, not so well documented, heavy and tricky to install.
      And i think this is by design.

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      • elsass_bear@mastodon.socialE elsass_bear@mastodon.social

        @FediTips

        Hmmm
        It was tempting at first but i'm not fluent in go 😅
        Also npm or JS stuff server side is a no go for me. So there's that.

        Anyway, enough of my life 🤪
        My point is : mastodon is not what it says it is. It's not for the masses, It's a bit community driven, but not realy, mostly monolitic, not so well documented, heavy and tricky to install.
        And i think this is by design.

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        #40

        @elsass_bear

        I think that's the idea of GTS and some other alternatives, to make a Fediverse platform that's easier to install and lightweight.

        They can use the Mastodon API so their platforms work with software written for Mastodon, but the instance is much lighter.

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          If you're helping people sign up on here, that's great! 👏

          However, I'd strongly suggest not signing up on the mastodon.social server. It's way way too large and that's dangerous (here's why https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server).

          I know some find choice overwhelming, so if you just want one general long-established very busy server https://mas.to is a better option for example.

          There are also lots of other good servers listed at https://fedi.garden and https://joinmastodon.org/servers

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          #41

          @FediTips You can invite people to join & then they join whichever instance you're on

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          • T th3haccoon@infosec.exchange

            @FediTips how do I know if I'm doing it right?

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            #42

            @th3haccoon @FediTips it's the bit after your username. So mine is lgbtqia.space, from @ mx verda @ lgbtqia.space whereas yours is infosec.exchange, from @ th3haccoon @ infosec.exchange, like FediTips said.

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            • mxverda@lgbtqia.spaceM mxverda@lgbtqia.space

              @th3haccoon @FediTips it's the bit after your username. So mine is lgbtqia.space, from @ mx verda @ lgbtqia.space whereas yours is infosec.exchange, from @ th3haccoon @ infosec.exchange, like FediTips said.

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              #43

              @MxVerda @FediTips ah! Very helpful. Thank you so much!

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              • T th3haccoon@infosec.exchange

                @MxVerda @FediTips ah! Very helpful. Thank you so much!

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                #44

                @th3haccoon @MxVerda

                Yeah, you can find out more about your Fediverse address here: https://fedi.tips/whats-my-accounts-address-how-do-i-follow-other-peoples-addresses-how-can-people-follow-my-address

                If you want to, you can log into your account on your server's website instead of an app. The website is usually the same as the name of the server, so for you it would be https://infosec.exchange 🙂 This is particularly useful on a computer.

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                • staringatclouds@mstdn.socialS staringatclouds@mstdn.social

                  @FediTips You can invite people to join & then they join whichever instance you're on

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                  #45

                  @staringatclouds

                  Yup, more about that at https://fedi.tips/inviting-people-onto-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    p.p.s. For people wondering why mas.to is better option than mastodon.social, here are some figures:

                    mastodon.social currently has ~20% of active Fediverse accounts

                    mas.to currently has ~1% of active Fediverse accounts

                    Mastodon.social is just so much larger than other servers and keeps growing, it is putting the network itself in danger.

                    I totally get the idea of having a single suggested server, but we need to regularly rotate which single server is suggested so we spread growth out.

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                    #46

                    @FediTips

                    it's educational reading the comments & opinions.💙

                    how do i see stats on mastodon.world?

                    was i just randomly assigned to it?

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                    • worldtravelerall7@mastodon.worldW worldtravelerall7@mastodon.world

                      @FediTips

                      it's educational reading the comments & opinions.💙

                      how do i see stats on mastodon.world?

                      was i just randomly assigned to it?

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                      #47

                      @WorldTravelerAll7

                      Mastodon.world is currently just under 1% of the total active Fediverse, based on what's at https://fedidb.com

                      You wouldn't have been randomly assigned, but there are many ways you might have joined. At some point you (or someone helping you?) would probably have chosen mastodon.world from a list of some kind? Or maybe you got an invitiation?

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                      • luupilotti@mas.toL luupilotti@mas.to

                        I have subscribed to several interesting hashtags but since I get very little traffick in mas.to I suspect it is the server. Not the hashtag.

                        Can I somehow follow the hashtags from another server than my own? @FediTips

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                        #48

                        @luupilotti Hi! I guess that's what groups are for. @FediTips has also a website covering them here https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/
                        Hope this helps. I also migrated to a smaller server using the guide lately and it was very easy.

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                        • frankie_flowers@franken.socialF frankie_flowers@franken.social

                          @luupilotti Hi! I guess that's what groups are for. @FediTips has also a website covering them here https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/
                          Hope this helps. I also migrated to a smaller server using the guide lately and it was very easy.

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                          #49

                          @frankie_flowers @luupilotti

                          The traffic mainly depends on what the tags are, mas.to has good connections to the Fediverse and should be getting as much as you could typically get.

                          But as Frankie says, groups are a way of getting exactly the same traffic on all servers. You can find more info in the link they gave (https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/).

                          I would advise following as many tags and groups as you can until you are seeing the amount of content you want.

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                          • frankie_flowers@franken.socialF frankie_flowers@franken.social

                            @luupilotti Hi! I guess that's what groups are for. @FediTips has also a website covering them here https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/
                            Hope this helps. I also migrated to a smaller server using the guide lately and it was very easy.

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                            #50

                            Good initiative but to get larger population to the fedi instead of just us nerds, this implementation has several usability flaws.

                            Firstly, users would need to understand how the system technically works to be able to find posts and get visibility. This is a far fetch.

                            🧵

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                            • luupilotti@mas.toL luupilotti@mas.to

                              Good initiative but to get larger population to the fedi instead of just us nerds, this implementation has several usability flaws.

                              Firstly, users would need to understand how the system technically works to be able to find posts and get visibility. This is a far fetch.

                              🧵

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                              #51

                              ...secondly, users will need to learn and remember to use not just hashtags but also group names. This will not happen. Only those understanding the inner works of fedi, and whom spefically want a certain distribution can use it.

                              This is a good use case but at the same time a fail for the need to discover like minded ones whom often are not engineers in it or tech. They just post stuff, sometimes with hashtags, sometimes forgetting....

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                              • luupilotti@mas.toL luupilotti@mas.to

                                ...secondly, users will need to learn and remember to use not just hashtags but also group names. This will not happen. Only those understanding the inner works of fedi, and whom spefically want a certain distribution can use it.

                                This is a good use case but at the same time a fail for the need to discover like minded ones whom often are not engineers in it or tech. They just post stuff, sometimes with hashtags, sometimes forgetting....

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                                #52

                                E.g. I am intersted in steamboats in active use, and would like to have a way to find other steamheads, many of whom have no idea of fedi insides or even what a hashtag is.

                                Or another interest in EU CRA related topics. Thus higher changes writer knows how to use fedi.

                                On fedi or mastodon, are there ways to e.g. create feeds similar to Bsky?

                                @frankie_flowers @FediTips

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                                • luupilotti@mas.toL luupilotti@mas.to

                                  E.g. I am intersted in steamboats in active use, and would like to have a way to find other steamheads, many of whom have no idea of fedi insides or even what a hashtag is.

                                  Or another interest in EU CRA related topics. Thus higher changes writer knows how to use fedi.

                                  On fedi or mastodon, are there ways to e.g. create feeds similar to Bsky?

                                  @frankie_flowers @FediTips

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                                  #53

                                  @luupilotti

                                  I'm not sure exactly how the Bluesky feed operates, but it sounds somewhat similar to Fedigroups? You can apply to create one by filling the form on the front page at https://about.fedigroups.social

                                  If you do create a group, let me know about it and I'll give it a shoutout over on @FediFollows

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                                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                    @WorldTravelerAll7

                                    Mastodon.world is currently just under 1% of the total active Fediverse, based on what's at https://fedidb.com

                                    You wouldn't have been randomly assigned, but there are many ways you might have joined. At some point you (or someone helping you?) would probably have chosen mastodon.world from a list of some kind? Or maybe you got an invitiation?

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                                    #54

                                    @FediTips this is extremely interesting info. 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑘 𝑦𝑜𝑢 💙

                                    Don't know how i got on Finland, but i'm very happy to be here😁💙 i loved my time there, irl, & have a good friend there, who i ironically, convinced to get on bsky so we could at least chat when i abandoned fb & whatsapp

                                    now i'm banned from bsky & they still haven't given me my shit back🤬🤬🤬

                                    speaking of meta, i heard threads is on the fediverse, but didn't see them. i have so many questions. thanks for the resource💙

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                                    • worldtravelerall7@mastodon.worldW worldtravelerall7@mastodon.world

                                      @FediTips this is extremely interesting info. 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑘 𝑦𝑜𝑢 💙

                                      Don't know how i got on Finland, but i'm very happy to be here😁💙 i loved my time there, irl, & have a good friend there, who i ironically, convinced to get on bsky so we could at least chat when i abandoned fb & whatsapp

                                      now i'm banned from bsky & they still haven't given me my shit back🤬🤬🤬

                                      speaking of meta, i heard threads is on the fediverse, but didn't see them. i have so many questions. thanks for the resource💙

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                                      #55

                                      @WorldTravelerAll7

                                      Threads is connected to the Fediverse, but many many servers have blocked them completely, especially since Meta announced at the start of the year that they would allow hate speech on their networks.

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                                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                        p.p.s. For people wondering why mas.to is better option than mastodon.social, here are some figures:

                                        mastodon.social currently has ~20% of active Fediverse accounts

                                        mas.to currently has ~1% of active Fediverse accounts

                                        Mastodon.social is just so much larger than other servers and keeps growing, it is putting the network itself in danger.

                                        I totally get the idea of having a single suggested server, but we need to regularly rotate which single server is suggested so we spread growth out.

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                                        #56

                                        @FediTips how do you switch servers?

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                                        • beartoothskier@mastodon.socialB beartoothskier@mastodon.social

                                          @FediTips how do you switch servers?

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                                          #57

                                          @BeartoothSkier

                                          There's a complete step-by-step guide here, and it answers lots of questions about the process too:

                                          https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server/

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