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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
    em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

    Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

    You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

    The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

    "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

    Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

    The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

    Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

    This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

    Brace yourself.

    #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

    mellivora@im-in.spaceM d_rift@beige.partyD P annehargreaves@ioc.exchangeA glitterbean@wehavecookies.socialG 27 Replies Last reply
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    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

      Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

      Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

      You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

      The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

      "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

      Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

      The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

      Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

      This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

      Brace yourself.

      #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

      mellivora@im-in.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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      mellivora@im-in.space
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @Em0nM4stodon is this why most doctors don't wear smartwatches?

      em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE aburka@hachyderm.ioA 2 Replies Last reply
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      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

        Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

        Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

        You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

        The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

        "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

        Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

        The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

        Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

        This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

        Brace yourself.

        #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

        d_rift@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
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        d_rift@beige.party
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @Em0nM4stodon added: the transcript contains errors.

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        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

          Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

          Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

          You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

          The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

          "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

          Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

          The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

          Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

          This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

          Brace yourself.

          #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

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          pirigoto@mastodonapp.uk
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          #4

          @Em0nM4stodon I knew it was bad but didn't think of this bad. We all knew the perv glasses were the beginning

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          • mellivora@im-in.spaceM mellivora@im-in.space

            @Em0nM4stodon is this why most doctors don't wear smartwatches?

            em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
            em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
            em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @Mellivora most

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            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

              Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

              Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

              You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

              The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

              "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

              Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

              The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

              Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

              This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

              Brace yourself.

              #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

              annehargreaves@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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              annehargreaves@ioc.exchange
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @Em0nM4stodon Ew 😬

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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                Brace yourself.

                #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

                glitterbean@wehavecookies.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                glitterbean@wehavecookies.social
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                #7

                @Em0nM4stodon Don't give them ideas. 🤔 😂

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                • glitterbean@wehavecookies.socialG glitterbean@wehavecookies.social

                  @Em0nM4stodon Don't give them ideas. 🤔 😂

                  em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @glitterbean If even only one tech-enthusiast doctor reads this, then thinks "Oh gosh, I haven't thought of that before. I will make sure to keep my smart watch at home and never wear it at work! I care about my patients!", then my mission will be accomplished.

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                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                    @Mellivora most

                    mellivora@im-in.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    mellivora@im-in.space
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @Em0nM4stodon depending where you live, this could be illegal like hippa. Idk though.

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                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                      @glitterbean If even only one tech-enthusiast doctor reads this, then thinks "Oh gosh, I haven't thought of that before. I will make sure to keep my smart watch at home and never wear it at work! I care about my patients!", then my mission will be accomplished.

                      glitterbean@wehavecookies.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      glitterbean@wehavecookies.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      @Em0nM4stodon That's what's important. I agree 100%

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                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                        Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                        Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                        You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                        The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                        "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                        Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                        The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                        Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                        This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                        Brace yourself.

                        #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

                        newshund@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        newshund@mastodon.social
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                        #11

                        @Em0nM4stodon they told us a long time ago that privacy is an illusion … and then they worked to make it true.

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                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                          Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                          Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                          You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                          The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                          "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                          Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                          The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                          Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                          This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                          Brace yourself.

                          #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

                          rzetao@kolektiva.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          rzetao@kolektiva.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #12

                          @Em0nM4stodon

                          in the UK we have Palantir spreading throughout the NHS

                          sure, they obey privacy and data protection laws, ... sure they do

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                          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                            Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                            Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                            You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                            The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                            "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                            Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                            The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                            Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                            This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                            Brace yourself.

                            #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

                            alex@social.alexschroeder.chA This user is from outside of this forum
                            alex@social.alexschroeder.chA This user is from outside of this forum
                            alex@social.alexschroeder.ch
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #13

                            @Em0nM4stodon Today a doctor friend posted the reverse: patients happily recording their conversation or feeding it to some AI app. Most patients are probably not thinking through these privacy issues, either. 🫣

                            em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE travisfw@fosstodon.orgT 2 Replies Last reply
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                            • alex@social.alexschroeder.chA alex@social.alexschroeder.ch

                              @Em0nM4stodon Today a doctor friend posted the reverse: patients happily recording their conversation or feeding it to some AI app. Most patients are probably not thinking through these privacy issues, either. 🫣

                              em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #14

                              @alex

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                              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                                Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                                You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                                The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                                "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                                Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                                The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                                Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                                This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                                Brace yourself.

                                #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

                                cassandra_complex@beige.partyC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                cassandra_complex@beige.party
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #15

                                @Em0nM4stodon
                                Similarly, imagine when your physician's smart watch records that you're pregnant and that's used to charge you for abortion. Or you start getting baby item ads and your partner gets angry and there's a domestic dispute because of it. There's so many ways being constantly recorded will not work out in the favor of anyone, but especially women.

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                                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                  Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                                  Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                                  You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                                  The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                                  "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                                  Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                                  The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                                  Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                                  This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                                  Brace yourself.

                                  #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

                                  swordgeek@mstdn.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @Em0nM4stodon add in the LG TV he's got in his office.

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                                  • mellivora@im-in.spaceM mellivora@im-in.space

                                    @Em0nM4stodon is this why most doctors don't wear smartwatches?

                                    aburka@hachyderm.ioA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @Mellivora @Em0nM4stodon most doctors are fine using an AI scribe that hallucinates medical conditions, so I don't think this Apple Watch issue is going to gain wide awareness among them unfortunately

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                                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                      Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                                      Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                                      You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                                      The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                                      "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                                      Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                                      The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                                      Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                                      This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                                      Brace yourself.

                                      #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

                                      gruber@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @Em0nM4stodon When do you believe any of this is "stored on their servers”?

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                                      • gruber@mastodon.socialG gruber@mastodon.social

                                        @Em0nM4stodon When do you believe any of this is "stored on their servers”?

                                        em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @gruber From Apple's documentation:

                                        "For Siri Recap, Apple Foundation Models running on Private Cloud Compute (PCC) summarize and format the final output."

                                        "Siri Recap summaries and saved Live Rewind text snippets stored in the Siri app are end-to-end encrypted when synced through iCloud"

                                        "If you use iCloud with two-factor authentication and have a device passcode, any Siri Recap summary or Live Rewind text snippet you choose to save syncs across your devices end-to-end encrypted in the Siri app."

                                        Source: https://support.apple.com/en-us/148354

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                                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                          Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                                          Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                                          You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                                          The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                                          "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                                          Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                                          The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                                          Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                                          This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                                          Brace yourself.

                                          #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

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                                          #20

                                          @Em0nM4stodon Hi Em, thank you so much for this. Could I ask for your permission to use this post in data protection training delivered to colleagues (Ireland)?

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