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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

    Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

    Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

    You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

    The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

    "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

    Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

    The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

    Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

    This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

    Brace yourself.

    #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

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    #6

    @Em0nM4stodon Ew 😬

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    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

      Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

      Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

      You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

      The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

      "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

      Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

      The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

      Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

      This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

      Brace yourself.

      #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

      glitterbean@wehavecookies.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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      glitterbean@wehavecookies.social
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      #7

      @Em0nM4stodon Don't give them ideas. 🤔 😂

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      • glitterbean@wehavecookies.socialG glitterbean@wehavecookies.social

        @Em0nM4stodon Don't give them ideas. 🤔 😂

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        #8

        @glitterbean If even only one tech-enthusiast doctor reads this, then thinks "Oh gosh, I haven't thought of that before. I will make sure to keep my smart watch at home and never wear it at work! I care about my patients!", then my mission will be accomplished.

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        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

          @Mellivora most

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          #9

          @Em0nM4stodon depending where you live, this could be illegal like hippa. Idk though.

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          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

            @glitterbean If even only one tech-enthusiast doctor reads this, then thinks "Oh gosh, I haven't thought of that before. I will make sure to keep my smart watch at home and never wear it at work! I care about my patients!", then my mission will be accomplished.

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            #10

            @Em0nM4stodon That's what's important. I agree 100%

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            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

              Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

              Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

              You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

              The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

              "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

              Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

              The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

              Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

              This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

              Brace yourself.

              #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

              newshund@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #11

              @Em0nM4stodon they told us a long time ago that privacy is an illusion … and then they worked to make it true.

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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                Brace yourself.

                #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

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                #12

                @Em0nM4stodon

                in the UK we have Palantir spreading throughout the NHS

                sure, they obey privacy and data protection laws, ... sure they do

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                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                  Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                  Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                  You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                  The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                  "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                  Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                  The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                  Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                  This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                  Brace yourself.

                  #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

                  alex@social.alexschroeder.chA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  alex@social.alexschroeder.ch
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                  #13

                  @Em0nM4stodon Today a doctor friend posted the reverse: patients happily recording their conversation or feeding it to some AI app. Most patients are probably not thinking through these privacy issues, either. 🫣

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                  • alex@social.alexschroeder.chA alex@social.alexschroeder.ch

                    @Em0nM4stodon Today a doctor friend posted the reverse: patients happily recording their conversation or feeding it to some AI app. Most patients are probably not thinking through these privacy issues, either. 🫣

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                    #14

                    @alex

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                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                      Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                      Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                      You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                      The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                      "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                      Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                      The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                      Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                      This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                      Brace yourself.

                      #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

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                      #15

                      @Em0nM4stodon
                      Similarly, imagine when your physician's smart watch records that you're pregnant and that's used to charge you for abortion. Or you start getting baby item ads and your partner gets angry and there's a domestic dispute because of it. There's so many ways being constantly recorded will not work out in the favor of anyone, but especially women.

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                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                        Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                        Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                        You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                        The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                        "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                        Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                        The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                        Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                        This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                        Brace yourself.

                        #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

                        swordgeek@mstdn.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #16

                        @Em0nM4stodon add in the LG TV he's got in his office.

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                        • mellivora@im-in.spaceM mellivora@im-in.space

                          @Em0nM4stodon is this why most doctors don't wear smartwatches?

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                          #17

                          @Mellivora @Em0nM4stodon most doctors are fine using an AI scribe that hallucinates medical conditions, so I don't think this Apple Watch issue is going to gain wide awareness among them unfortunately

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                          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                            Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                            Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                            You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                            The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                            "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                            Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                            The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                            Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                            This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                            Brace yourself.

                            #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

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                            #18

                            @Em0nM4stodon When do you believe any of this is "stored on their servers”?

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                            • gruber@mastodon.socialG gruber@mastodon.social

                              @Em0nM4stodon When do you believe any of this is "stored on their servers”?

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                              #19

                              @gruber From Apple's documentation:

                              "For Siri Recap, Apple Foundation Models running on Private Cloud Compute (PCC) summarize and format the final output."

                              "Siri Recap summaries and saved Live Rewind text snippets stored in the Siri app are end-to-end encrypted when synced through iCloud"

                              "If you use iCloud with two-factor authentication and have a device passcode, any Siri Recap summary or Live Rewind text snippet you choose to save syncs across your devices end-to-end encrypted in the Siri app."

                              Source: https://support.apple.com/en-us/148354

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                              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                                Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                                You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                                The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                                "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                                Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                                The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                                Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                                This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                                Brace yourself.

                                #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

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                                #20

                                @Em0nM4stodon Hi Em, thank you so much for this. Could I ask for your permission to use this post in data protection training delivered to colleagues (Ireland)?

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                                • clickhere@mastodon.ieC clickhere@mastodon.ie

                                  @Em0nM4stodon Hi Em, thank you so much for this. Could I ask for your permission to use this post in data protection training delivered to colleagues (Ireland)?

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                                  #21

                                  @clickhere Yes, absolutely! And thank you for asking. I'm very happy if this can help others with data protection training 💚

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                                  • swordgeek@mstdn.caS swordgeek@mstdn.ca

                                    @Em0nM4stodon add in the LG TV he's got in his office.

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                                    #22

                                    @swordgeek @Em0nM4stodon

                                    It's not just LG TVs. Any smart tv with Automatic Content Recognition that has access to any network (wired or wireless) is doing speech-to-text and uploading it whenever they establish a connection on any network.

                                    So (1) don't connect them to the internet
                                    And (2) don't use any streaming features
                                    And (3) regularly look for open internet connections (your neighbours, etc)
                                    And (4) do not accept any terms of use. Use it strictly as a dumb monitor.

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                                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                      Imagine you're having a remote appointment with your doctor for a very personal health issue.

                                      Your doctor is a tech enthusiast, and is proudly wearing the new Apple Watch with all the recording features enabled.

                                      You don't see the "Audible and visible signals for Live Rewind", because you don't see your doctor's wrist on videochat or on speakerphone.

                                      The "Omitted content" safeguard fails to detect the sensitive conversation, because none of the pre-selected keywords are detected.

                                      "What about all the privacy laws protecting me?", you claim in distress.

                                      Sadly, your doctor is unaware and thinks "surely Apple respects all the laws by default?"

                                      The medical clinic isn't informed about privacy risks related to new technologies, and hasn't implemented any training or policies about it yet.

                                      Your sensitive health data is collected by Apple's new features, stored on their servers, blissfully unaware of the infringements to your consent, your privacy, and all the laws supposed to protect you.

                                      This is only one scenario of the many surveillance nightmares we might hear about in the coming months and years.

                                      Brace yourself.

                                      #Privacy #Security #Consent #Apple

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                                      #23

                                      @Em0nM4stodon

                                      not to mention what the billionaire fascists in charge will do with that data. make lists of ppl they want dead, which is most of us as we become liabilities in wage costs for example.

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                                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                        @clickhere Yes, absolutely! And thank you for asking. I'm very happy if this can help others with data protection training 💚

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                                        #24

                                        @Em0nM4stodon Oh, thank you so much!

                                        (To be fair, it's unlikely that the organisation would consider the use of these devices okay - but you can never fully account for the actions of individuals!)

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                                        • d_rift@beige.partyD d_rift@beige.party

                                          @Em0nM4stodon added: the transcript contains errors.

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                                          barbra@social.vivaldi.net
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                                          #25

                                          @d_rift @Em0nM4stodon

                                          Yep, since it just takes averages of inputs to generate outputs.

                                          For example: if 80% of people with characteristics A, B, and C also are heroin addicts, the LLM will put in your file that you're a heroin addict.

                                          This has already happened.

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