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  • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

    Leenaars discusses the early days of the internet, how much optimism there was.

    And how much, in retrospect, naïvité in choosing partnerships -- both with what became Big Tech and with governments

    #FOSDEM #fosDEM2026

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    Exhibit 1: Github (= Microsoft)

    WIth a repo on there, even if you don't share you code with anyone, you still share it with Github/MSFT, which in turn shares it with the US government

    "We've been played", says Leenaars

    #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026 #github

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    • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

      Exhibit 1: Github (= Microsoft)

      WIth a repo on there, even if you don't share you code with anyone, you still share it with Github/MSFT, which in turn shares it with the US government

      "We've been played", says Leenaars

      #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026 #github

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      #9

      Are these big tech companies your friends? Will they take care of you?

      So many of these companies offer convenience. But at what cost?

      You become dependent.

      There's abuse

      #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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      • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

        Are these big tech companies your friends? Will they take care of you?

        So many of these companies offer convenience. But at what cost?

        You become dependent.

        There's abuse

        #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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        #10

        There's a big opportunity at this moment. Society is in panic mode, because it's become too dependent

        And society is looking at tech workers for a solution

        #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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        • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

          There's a big opportunity at this moment. Society is in panic mode, because it's become too dependent

          And society is looking at tech workers for a solution

          #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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          It's Stockholm syndrome, Leenaars says.

          Mentions the example of the Dutch government - ministry of Finance making a big project out of moving to Microsoft, even though this creates:

          • More dependence on US-based tools
          • Productivity loss

          #fosdem #fosdem2026

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          • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

            It's Stockholm syndrome, Leenaars says.

            Mentions the example of the Dutch government - ministry of Finance making a big project out of moving to Microsoft, even though this creates:

            • More dependence on US-based tools
            • Productivity loss

            #fosdem #fosdem2026

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            But don't fall into the trap of jumping into European-based big tech!

            That'd be the same predators, just based in a different location

            Instead, what this moment needs is social initiative, not more 🤑 says Leenaars

            #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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            • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

              But don't fall into the trap of jumping into European-based big tech!

              That'd be the same predators, just based in a different location

              Instead, what this moment needs is social initiative, not more 🤑 says Leenaars

              #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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              Dependency on short-form content & LLMs is hampering childrens' brain development, suggests Leenaars

              It's a form of dementia, but worse, because they're not even developing a fully functioning brains

              (disclaimer: i don't know the exact studies on this, just reporting the talk)

              #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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              • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

                Dependency on short-form content & LLMs is hampering childrens' brain development, suggests Leenaars

                It's a form of dementia, but worse, because they're not even developing a fully functioning brains

                (disclaimer: i don't know the exact studies on this, just reporting the talk)

                #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                #14

                What does war look like today?

                "It's not [just] enemy lines, it's your lines of code that are causing real-world damage", says Leenaars

                As a form of warfare, code & computation is:

                • Super cheap
                • Very low risk
                • High yield

                #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

                  What does war look like today?

                  "It's not [just] enemy lines, it's your lines of code that are causing real-world damage", says Leenaars

                  As a form of warfare, code & computation is:

                  • Super cheap
                  • Very low risk
                  • High yield

                  #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                  #15

                  The pager explosions in Lebanon in 2024, during which thousands were wounded an many Lebanese people got killed, was a zionist supply chain attack

                  Background: https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2025/9/17/lebanons-terrible-year-from-exploding-pagers-to-israeli-occupation

                  #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                  • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

                    The pager explosions in Lebanon in 2024, during which thousands were wounded an many Lebanese people got killed, was a zionist supply chain attack

                    Background: https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2025/9/17/lebanons-terrible-year-from-exploding-pagers-to-israeli-occupation

                    #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                    #16

                    What and who do you depend on in your projects? How fragile is that infrastructure?

                    #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                    • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

                      What and who do you depend on in your projects? How fragile is that infrastructure?

                      #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                      #17

                      "There's no Claude, there's just other people's code", Leenaars offers a reality check

                      #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                      • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

                        "There's no Claude, there's just other people's code", Leenaars offers a reality check

                        #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                        #18

                        These models are ingesting everything and anything, indiscriminately. They're over-eating

                        At a certain point they'll be ingesting their own excrement & barfing that up, suggests Leenaars

                        #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                        • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

                          These models are ingesting everything and anything, indiscriminately. They're over-eating

                          At a certain point they'll be ingesting their own excrement & barfing that up, suggests Leenaars

                          #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                          @onrust I'd argue they already are: AI summaries in search engines summarize SEO-optimized slop...

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                          • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

                            These models are ingesting everything and anything, indiscriminately. They're over-eating

                            At a certain point they'll be ingesting their own excrement & barfing that up, suggests Leenaars

                            #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                            #20

                            In a time of war, the free & open source infrastructure shouldn't build weapons!

                            Instead it should be used to defend communities, and should be funded as such, suggests Leenaars

                            #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2026

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                            • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

                              FOSDEM starting in a bit!

                              Some talks that could be interesting for workers:

                              31 Jan, 10:00
                              FOSS in times of war, scarcity and (adversarial) AI -> war always most hurts working people

                              We need to talk about war. And we need to talk about companies building bots that propose to rewrite our source code. And about the people behind both, and how we preserve what is great about FOSS while avoiding disruption. How do geopolitical conflicts on the one hand and the risk of bot-generated (adversarial) code on the other influence the global community working together on Free and Open Source software?

                              cc @techwerkers

                              #FOSDEM #fosdem2026 #tech #techwork

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                              @onrust @techwerkers ik heb vooral de security ruimte op het oog. Nog andere aanraders?

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                                @onrust @techwerkers ik heb vooral de security ruimte op het oog. Nog andere aanraders?

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                                @Huubje deze morgenochtend lijkt mij ook erg relevant, vanuit het arbeidsperspectief: https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/L3BK7S-free-as-in-burned-out/

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                                • onrust@infosec.exchangeO onrust@infosec.exchange

                                  @Huubje deze morgenochtend lijkt mij ook erg relevant, vanuit het arbeidsperspectief: https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/L3BK7S-free-as-in-burned-out/

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                                  @onrust die was ik tegengekomen. Dank je!

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