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  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

    Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

    We hear you.

    And our reply is firm:
    ✋🏼These interventions must end.

    Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

    Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

    Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

    We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

    ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

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    #11

    @EUCommission
    By conversion practices, you mean converting from one gender to another?
    If a person is an adult, why do you care what they do to their bodies? Isn't it transphobic?
    If somebody has a gender dysphoria, this is a therapy and it's proven to work, preventing self harm.

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    • kosimus@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kosimus@mastodon.gamedev.place

      @EUCommission ban them for minors, fine. Let adults do what they want to do though. Don't try to limit my freedom where this freedom is not affecting others in any negative way.

      njord@zeroes.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #12

      @Kosimus @EUCommission

      It's a harmful practice that is medically unsound and deeply harmful to those who undergo it. Do you think adults should be able to sign up for a lobotomy, too?

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        #13

        @DavidNorth @EUCommission I don't wish to have any freedom to force other people to do or not do anything. At the same time, I don't want my freedom to cause harm to myself taken away.

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        • njord@zeroes.caN njord@zeroes.ca

          @Kosimus @EUCommission

          It's a harmful practice that is medically unsound and deeply harmful to those who undergo it. Do you think adults should be able to sign up for a lobotomy, too?

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          #14

          @Njord @EUCommission of course. Adults should be able to do whatever they want to themselves. You can smoke, you can drink - OBVIOUSLY harmful. Let's be consistent.

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          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

            We hear you.

            And our reply is firm:
            ✋🏼These interventions must end.

            Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

            Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

            Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

            We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

            ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

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            #15

            @EUCommission

            As of today, also 1,190,055 citizens signed the petition to demand the full suspension of the #EU-#Israel Association Agreement in view of Israel’s violations of human rights.

            Do you hear them, as well?
            You won't let them down either, will you?

            https://eci.ec.europa.eu/055/public

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            • phoenixwright@ieji.deP phoenixwright@ieji.de

              @EUCommission
              By conversion practices, you mean converting from one gender to another?
              If a person is an adult, why do you care what they do to their bodies? Isn't it transphobic?
              If somebody has a gender dysphoria, this is a therapy and it's proven to work, preventing self harm.

              njord@zeroes.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #16

              @PhoenixWright @EUCommission
              The EU actually put out a statement supporting people's right to undergo gender reassignment recently.

              "Conversion therapy" is something else entirely, It's a pseudoscientific "therapy" intended to make a person stop being LGBT+.

              Like a lot of quackery, it is both harmful and and ineffective, which is why they want to ban it

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              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

                We hear you.

                And our reply is firm:
                ✋🏼These interventions must end.

                Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

                Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

                Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

                We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

                ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

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                #17
                @EUCommission Good, but I hope you don't shy away from Islamic etc. cases of this just for the sake of appearing politically correct. Tolerating intolerance and all that.
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                • njord@zeroes.caN njord@zeroes.ca

                  @PhoenixWright @EUCommission
                  The EU actually put out a statement supporting people's right to undergo gender reassignment recently.

                  "Conversion therapy" is something else entirely, It's a pseudoscientific "therapy" intended to make a person stop being LGBT+.

                  Like a lot of quackery, it is both harmful and and ineffective, which is why they want to ban it

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                  #18

                  @Njord @EUCommission
                  This is confusing. Arent those statements synonymous?
                  To convert one's gender/to reassign one's gender mean the same thing to me.

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                    #19

                    @DavidNorth @EUCommission practically correct - I'm not interested in a conversion therapy, and I agree it's a harmful concept. It's more about the principle. I really don't like it when a government decides what is good or bad for me.

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                    • njord@zeroes.caN njord@zeroes.ca

                      @PhoenixWright @EUCommission
                      The EU actually put out a statement supporting people's right to undergo gender reassignment recently.

                      "Conversion therapy" is something else entirely, It's a pseudoscientific "therapy" intended to make a person stop being LGBT+.

                      Like a lot of quackery, it is both harmful and and ineffective, which is why they want to ban it

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                      #20

                      Hello @Njord! Thank you for explaining, @PhoenixWright!

                      We also included a definition of these practices in our response:
                      Conversion practices on LGBTQ+ people are comprised of a diverse group of mental and physical manipulations, psycho-hypnotic indoctrinations (usually presented to public as “therapies”), medical and homoeopathic interventions, exorcism and other treatments enacted with the aim of altering Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity and Expression.
                      https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000001_en

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                      • nikthechampiongr@ohai.socialN nikthechampiongr@ohai.social

                        @EUCommission You are using the linked in link shortener.

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                        #21

                        Hello @nikthechampiongr!
                        The link shortener used here is our own. It can only shorten URLs on the europa.eu domain.
                        If you prefer to access this site without a shortened link, here you go: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_1070

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                        • J joyandsadness@urbanists.social

                          @EUCommission should have said: lgbtq+ not a disease. Next line: ban all "cures". Saying conversion therapy is not a cure one might imply that other things are. Sloppy work again

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                          #22

                          Hello @joyandsadness
                          Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.
                          We also stated this in the text above the poster, but we thank you for your feedback on our visual communication. We will bear it in mind for the future.

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                          • urwumpe@hessen.socialU urwumpe@hessen.social

                            @AngelaScholder @EUCommission They can't enforce it, that is the weakness of the commission. Only the member states can enforce it. But the commission will write a formal recommendation to the member states to adopt such a ban. Its sad, that even that recommendation is still in the future, considering how much even just the idea behind such "therapies" (Better: Torture) violates the human rights in all EU countries.

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                            #23

                            Hello @urwumpe, @AngelaScholder!
                            We considered several options, and, although a Recommendation is a non-binding legal act, it is the best and most effective instrument to achieve the objective of the ECI. That’s because banning conversion practices by means of criminal law is a competence of EU countries. Some countries have already done so. We are committed to supporting EU countries who are in the process of banning conversion practices and encourage others who wish to start the process. 🌈

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

                              We hear you.

                              And our reply is firm:
                              ✋🏼These interventions must end.

                              Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

                              Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

                              Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

                              We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

                              ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

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                              #24

                              @EUCommission diversity is what makes humanity strong. Monoculture is prone to diseases. Fascism wants monoculture.

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                              • phoenixwright@ieji.deP phoenixwright@ieji.de

                                @Njord @EUCommission
                                This is confusing. Arent those statements synonymous?
                                To convert one's gender/to reassign one's gender mean the same thing to me.

                                noodlejetski@masto.aiN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #25

                                @PhoenixWright @Njord @EUCommission that's transition. "conversion therapy" is pseudoscience bullshit claiming to "treat" people from their homosexuality or from being transgender, while giving them a bunch of new psychological issues.

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                                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                  Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

                                  We hear you.

                                  And our reply is firm:
                                  ✋🏼These interventions must end.

                                  Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

                                  Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

                                  Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

                                  We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

                                  ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

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                                  #26

                                  @EUCommission As a queer person, I can get behind this message!
                                  But again, as a queer person, you are in the process of creating an awful situation with the #ageverification laws. Teens should be able to access information about LGBTQ+ topics without even fearing that it might be logged and tied to their ID. This is one of the many reasons why IF the #EUDI wallet needs to exist at all, ZKPs and offline operation MUST be a requirement and the standard before release - safety by technical design!

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                                  • usernomnomnom@mastodon.socialU usernomnomnom@mastodon.social

                                    @EUCommission As a queer person, I can get behind this message!
                                    But again, as a queer person, you are in the process of creating an awful situation with the #ageverification laws. Teens should be able to access information about LGBTQ+ topics without even fearing that it might be logged and tied to their ID. This is one of the many reasons why IF the #EUDI wallet needs to exist at all, ZKPs and offline operation MUST be a requirement and the standard before release - safety by technical design!

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                                    #27

                                    @usernomnomnom @EUCommission
                                    https://www.torproject.org/download/

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                                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

                                      We hear you.

                                      And our reply is firm:
                                      ✋🏼These interventions must end.

                                      Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

                                      Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

                                      Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

                                      We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

                                      ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

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                                      #28

                                      @EUCommission

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                                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                        Hello @nikthechampiongr!
                                        The link shortener used here is our own. It can only shorten URLs on the europa.eu domain.
                                        If you prefer to access this site without a shortened link, here you go: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_1070

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                                        #29

                                        @EUCommission @nikthechampiongr but is there a reason why you're using them...? Because mastodon doesn't care (max char length of a post) if it's a short or long link

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                                        • kosimus@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kosimus@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @Njord @EUCommission of course. Adults should be able to do whatever they want to themselves. You can smoke, you can drink - OBVIOUSLY harmful. Let's be consistent.

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                                          #30

                                          @Kosimus @Njord @EUCommission why would an adult willingly put themselves through that though? It's literal torture

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