Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.
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Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.
Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.
@vkc My crew is working on it. Culturally, we are training to call out and effectively moderate (banning, blocking, defederating) and figuring out 'financing' of who does it and hours required of manual moderation w/volunteers.
Structurally, there's common sexism/problem phrases that are just stupidly common, a pre-filter for all posts containing known BS, expanding on any emergent phrasing case-by-case
PSA channels with zero commenting for local civics also on the drawing board.
Thoughts?
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@vkc I wonder if it's a good sign for my instance that I'm seeing a lot of replies to what I presume is people being sexist pricks but not their actual posts.
@disorderlyf probably. I know folks are reporting posts and that's almost certainly creating some blocks right now.
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Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.
Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.
@vkc Moderation is a difficult problem to solve. Whenever I see content that is unwelcome (sexual harassment is at the top of that list), I report it, but not once have I received notice that anything has been done based on those reports.
On top of that, reporting bad actors is reactive and does nothing to undo the harassment that occurred.
Seems like the only approach that works is to loudly and publicly name & shame harassers. But that opens up another can of worms.
Ugh.
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@disorderlyf probably. I know folks are reporting posts and that's almost certainly creating some blocks right now.
@vkc Well, for what it's worth, I'll report any I see if someone else doesn't beat me to it.
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Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.
Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.
@vkc Even though fedi doesn't have algorithms to encourage such behavior, it can still happen and it is often beyond the powers of the managers of the instance to police everyone. It is everyone's responsibility to be vigilant and always protect their communities from trolls. Also that's a useful thing to do in real life too. Don't wait for the officer to answer, do something.
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@vkc I hope you are doing OK, I had no idea that other people on Fedi to be this bad. I thought since it's userbase is more smarter I wouldn't guessed this would happen.
I'd be cool if Mastodon had a "list" feature like bsky does, where you can add people to there and auto-block/mute them. Kinda useful thing, especially on these.
There's a certain subset of people who are pushing an _ideology_, and the sexism is an expression of that ideology.
They're going to keep coming back from bans, and making sock puppets because appearing to be more numerous than they are is in service of that ideology.
Promoting the idea that they can't be stopped and the only way they can be delt with is by giving them what they want is also in service of that ideology.
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Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.
Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.
@vkc Fook! In Finland we take those people behind the Sauna!
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Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.
Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.
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@vkc I didn’t see that. What was said?
Edit: how did the sexual harassment look like?You should approach this potlatch style: you offer a graphic description of something nasty that happened to you, to the public, unsolicited - be sure to roll around in it, really feel all the horrible feelings it evoked. Make sure to link the other party.
**Then** you can ask someone else to do the same, realizing that they aren't obligated to return your 'gift' in kind.
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There's a certain subset of people who are pushing an _ideology_, and the sexism is an expression of that ideology.
They're going to keep coming back from bans, and making sock puppets because appearing to be more numerous than they are is in service of that ideology.
Promoting the idea that they can't be stopped and the only way they can be delt with is by giving them what they want is also in service of that ideology.
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@vkc no it is not and quite frankly your response is quite obnoxious. If we can't talk about problems collectively on this shithole platform and only talk about one thing at a time than it becomes loose islands among the rest of the sewage, but fine whatever. Thank you for proving my point about how hostile this place is becoming with all you morons whining, but yet do this type of shit. Anyways, enjoy the block. I generally don't care.
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@vkc the hostility toward gen z in general has ramped up, but yet these whiney bitches want gen z to clean up their mess while straight up abusing gen z claiming this is what all generations do which is just manipulation.
@alex02@elonsucks.org @vkc Block or block and report.
Not really difficult to decide in this case.
Edit : Done @alex02@elonsucks.org blocked and reported
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Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.
Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.
@vkc women will just stay on corporate social media even more because at least the user base there isn't so heavily skewed white male. I'd only been posting regularly for about a week here and got tone policed by some dude who said he was muting me for 30 days because I wasn't cheery enough. I extended his 30 days with a block. I've been in tech for over 25 years and I don't play.
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@vkc I wonder if it's a good sign for my instance that I'm seeing a lot of replies to what I presume is people being sexist pricks but not their actual posts.
@disorderlyf @vkc Thanks, that explains some of the non sequiturs I just read!
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@vkc what the actual f is wrong with humanity
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Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.
Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.
@vkc
I'd report and block them... Dont censor yourself because of bad users. Just my opinion.
That is the power we have taken back by being on the Fediverse
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@eq "don't let the idiots get you" - do you see how that puts it on me?
I trust you mean well, but respectfully: no. The correct response is "men should fight back when they see this amongst themselves."
It isn't my responsibility to "not let them get me down." It's men who need to step up and fight this battle.
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@vkc no it is not and quite frankly your response is quite obnoxious. If we can't talk about problems collectively on this shithole platform and only talk about one thing at a time than it becomes loose islands among the rest of the sewage, but fine whatever. Thank you for proving my point about how hostile this place is becoming with all you morons whining, but yet do this type of shit. Anyways, enjoy the block. I generally don't care.
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@eq "don't let the idiots get you" - do you see how that puts it on me?
I trust you mean well, but respectfully: no. The correct response is "men should fight back when they see this amongst themselves."
It isn't my responsibility to "not let them get me down." It's men who need to step up and fight this battle.
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Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.
Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.
@vkc ugh. I saw your earlier post and I'm so sorry 🫂
A *lot* of (mostly) guys need to learn the difference between appropriate, consensual flirting, and sexual harassment.
