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Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”

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  • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

    Ok this is interesting.

    The desktop app has no such restrictions, only mobile.

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    #42

    @SecurityWriter my favorite is apps that offer webauthn features on their mobile app, but desktop doesn't offer 2FA? Da fuq? Do they have an actual fucking potato doing their threat modeling?

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    • farbenstau@infosec.exchangeF farbenstau@infosec.exchange

      @luc0x61 @draeath @SecurityWriter See, now we know you're making this up, because DOOM required an i386 or better …

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      #43

      @farbenstau @draeath @SecurityWriter Well, you make me doubt of my memories, but I remember that at that division we still had "286 at the time. Quite confident that a guy on the purchasing dept. had a '286 when we played 4 players deathmatch on local Novell IPX network.
      Did we already switch to 386? 🤔

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      • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

        @farbenstau @draeath @SecurityWriter Well, you make me doubt of my memories, but I remember that at that division we still had "286 at the time. Quite confident that a guy on the purchasing dept. had a '286 when we played 4 players deathmatch on local Novell IPX network.
        Did we already switch to 386? 🤔

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        #44

        @luc0x61 @draeath @SecurityWriter https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/a4yi5t/original_doom_system_requirements_from_my_25_year/ here's a copy of the original spec thas lists i386 as minimum, i486 as recommended. I seriously doubt a DOS extender would have worked on an i286, anyway …

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        • chebra@mstdn.ioC chebra@mstdn.io

          @SecurityWriter

          That account is 23 years old, what if it was just passed on to you from someone else?

          So what if I go through the age verification and then pass my account on to someone else?

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          #45

          @chebra @SecurityWriter their TOS forbid passing on accounts to someone else (even when you die). Thus it's not possible, because you'd obviously violate their TOS. And nobody would do that

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          • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

            Valve: “We need a credit card on file to prove you’re 18”

            Me: “My account is 23 years old”

            Valve: “That just proves your account is old”

            Me: “A credit card just proves you know someone with a credit card”

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            #46

            @SecurityWriter The kids at school are impressed that my daughters Steam account has well over 200 games.
            (Thanks, HumbleBundle!)
            Okay, it's my account, but she plays games on it more than I do!

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            • skaverat@skaverat.netS skaverat@skaverat.net

              @chebra @SecurityWriter their TOS forbid passing on accounts to someone else (even when you die). Thus it's not possible, because you'd obviously violate their TOS. And nobody would do that

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              #47

              @skaverat As if TOS ever stopped anyone. But my point is that in that case they don't need object against those 23 year-old accounts. So either they are accepting the possibility, or they aren't. If that possibility exists, then it will exist also after the new age verification and they can just ask for re-verification one week later with exactly the same reasoning.

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              • yetzt@social.yetzt.meY yetzt@social.yetzt.me

                @SecurityWriter using a desktop is dating yourself. as an old fart.

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                #48

                @yetzt @SecurityWriter But, it’s steam. How can you play games without a desktop.

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                • farbenstau@infosec.exchangeF farbenstau@infosec.exchange

                  @luc0x61 @draeath @SecurityWriter See, now we know you're making this up, because DOOM required an i386 or better …

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                  #49

                  @farbenstau @luc0x61 @draeath @SecurityWriter you can run DOOM on a fly's brain.

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                  • rejzor@mastodon.socialR rejzor@mastodon.social

                    @SecurityWriter I still need to constantly input my date of birth before seeing some game pages even though the setting is set in my profile. Wtf?

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                    #50

                    @rejzor @SecurityWriter I don't remember where it is but there is a setting for that. I managed to turn off age promoting because yeah, rather annoying. Especially when it's for stuff that shouldn't even need it.

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                    • heals@indiepocalypse.socialH heals@indiepocalypse.social

                      @chebra then you’re in violation of Steams EULA and they’ll happily terminate your account for you.

                      Your Account, including any information pertaining to it (e.g.: contact information, billing information, Account history and Subscriptions, etc.), is strictly personal. You may therefore not sell or charge others for the right to use your Account, or otherwise transfer your Account[…]

                      /cc @SecurityWriter

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                      #51

                      @heals @chebra @SecurityWriter "it's personal" "we tell you how you can use it"

                      That doesn't sound personal at all.

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                      • farbenstau@infosec.exchangeF farbenstau@infosec.exchange

                        @luc0x61 @draeath @SecurityWriter See, now we know you're making this up, because DOOM required an i386 or better …

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                        #52

                        @farbenstau @luc0x61 @draeath @SecurityWriter Wolfenstein 3D did run on a 286.

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                        • randamumaki@mstdn.socialR randamumaki@mstdn.social

                          @farbenstau @luc0x61 @draeath @SecurityWriter Wolfenstein 3D did run on a 286.

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                          #53

                          @RandamuMaki @luc0x61 @draeath @SecurityWriter Heh. Actually never tried that back in the days, because possession of that game was illegal in my country back then.

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                          • dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD dresstokilt@mastodon.social

                            @farbenstau @luc0x61 @draeath @SecurityWriter you can run DOOM on a fly's brain.

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                            #54

                            @dresstokilt @farbenstau @draeath @SecurityWriter That's true for latest reimplementations, but the original was only for i386, as said above: clearly my memories on when we switched from i286 to i386 in that department were wrong!

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                            • farbenstau@infosec.exchangeF farbenstau@infosec.exchange

                              @luc0x61 @draeath @SecurityWriter https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/a4yi5t/original_doom_system_requirements_from_my_25_year/ here's a copy of the original spec thas lists i386 as minimum, i486 as recommended. I seriously doubt a DOS extender would have worked on an i286, anyway …

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                              #55

                              @farbenstau @draeath @SecurityWriter Yep, you're right: then we had switched to 386! 🤷‍♂️
                              My memories of three decades ago are disappearing, I'm ready for retirement! 😂

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                              • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                @dresstokilt @farbenstau @draeath @SecurityWriter That's true for latest reimplementations, but the original was only for i386, as said above: clearly my memories on when we switched from i286 to i386 in that department were wrong!

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                                #56

                                @luc0x61 @dresstokilt @draeath @SecurityWriter See, that's why I'm glad this isn't Twitter - over there, instead of admitting one is wrong, the typical reply would have involved questioning my mother's morale, followed by a block and counter-block. 🤪

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                                • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  @dresstokilt @farbenstau @draeath @SecurityWriter That's true for latest reimplementations, but the original was only for i386, as said above: clearly my memories on when we switched from i286 to i386 in that department were wrong!

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                                  #57

                                  @luc0x61 @farbenstau @draeath @SecurityWriter my 286 only had a CGA card so I don't think it could have handled it anyway.

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                                  • dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD dresstokilt@mastodon.social

                                    @luc0x61 @farbenstau @draeath @SecurityWriter my 286 only had a CGA card so I don't think it could have handled it anyway.

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                                    #58

                                    @dresstokilt @farbenstau @draeath @SecurityWriter At this point I don't remember what graphics card I had there! I worked in two different places, somewhere we had some scientific setup, otherwise we had plain business machines.
                                    I remember of the site for the Doom DM, with 4 players on the local network. It was also something very new for us. From home we dialled by slow modems, for a point-to-point two players gameplay.
                                    I'd never believe in those times of the 6 Gbps fiber I have at home now!

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                                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                      @SecurityWriter 23 years is impressive, I'm holding at the 21 years mark.

                                      Which they give you fucking BADGE for that's the FIRST THING on your profile.

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                                      #59

                                      @thomasfuchs @SecurityWriter

                                      Mine's 21 as well, but when I bought Orange Box I gave my original account to my son, so his is 22.

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                                      • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @SecurityWriter You can't say meaningful things to bureacracy, even worse to bureacracy created for people control.
                                        BTW even my Steam account dates back to portal creation, λ2

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                                        #60

                                        @luc0x61 @SecurityWriter it's the tech companies pushing for control, it doesn't come from bureaucracy. They want to be able to tell advertisers that real humans are seeing ads, not just bots and AI agents. Bureaucracy just sucked dick and took bribes.

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                                        • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @dresstokilt @farbenstau @draeath @SecurityWriter At this point I don't remember what graphics card I had there! I worked in two different places, somewhere we had some scientific setup, otherwise we had plain business machines.
                                          I remember of the site for the Doom DM, with 4 players on the local network. It was also something very new for us. From home we dialled by slow modems, for a point-to-point two players gameplay.
                                          I'd never believe in those times of the 6 Gbps fiber I have at home now!

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                                          #61

                                          @luc0x61 @dresstokilt @draeath @SecurityWriter Consider yourself lucky. I'm stuck at 6-12 (only on a good day) MBit/s via DSL, yes, in 2026.

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