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  3. Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year?

Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year?

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  • erikcats@dice.campE erikcats@dice.camp

    @707Kat 😂😂😂 I hate it but I'm laughing

    707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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    #29

    @erikcats Haha that was my intend. 😂

    You'll probably laugh watching this as well.

    TLDW; Video goes over how OpenAI has had to hire a projectlead who is now raising alarm about all of their unfinished projects going nowhere other than wasting money and resources.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2guHaoY2_Y

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year? No I can't either.

      And from their actual press release: "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and other interactions that bring the ecosystem to life. It's an astonishing collection of what open social infrastructure makes possible."

      https://bsky.social/about/blog/03-19-2026-series-b

      How I read it: data harvesting at its finest 💁‍♀️

      #Bluesky

      nickapos@mastodon.oncrete.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #30

      @_elena Mastodon data are open too….
      But yeah blue sky has crypto investors it will be monetised for sure

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year? No I can't either.

        And from their actual press release: "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and other interactions that bring the ecosystem to life. It's an astonishing collection of what open social infrastructure makes possible."

        https://bsky.social/about/blog/03-19-2026-series-b

        How I read it: data harvesting at its finest 💁‍♀️

        #Bluesky

        pouakai@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #31

        @_elena
        You'd scared me.
        I really thought Mastodon did something sinister at the first glance XD

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        • 707kat@mastodon.art7 707kat@mastodon.art

          @erikcats Haha that was my intend. 😂

          You'll probably laugh watching this as well.

          TLDW; Video goes over how OpenAI has had to hire a projectlead who is now raising alarm about all of their unfinished projects going nowhere other than wasting money and resources.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2guHaoY2_Y

          erikcats@dice.campE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #32

          @707Kat they sell vibe more than anything, so all projects trumps product (see Ee-lahn Mushk for reference).

          But you're wrong, the video had me facepalming 😂 good video!

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          • erikcats@dice.campE erikcats@dice.camp

            @707Kat they sell vibe more than anything, so all projects trumps product (see Ee-lahn Mushk for reference).

            But you're wrong, the video had me facepalming 😂 good video!

            707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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            #33

            @erikcats I believe facpalming should be a standard response to what's been happening with this tech for the past couple of years.

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year? No I can't either.

              And from their actual press release: "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and other interactions that bring the ecosystem to life. It's an astonishing collection of what open social infrastructure makes possible."

              https://bsky.social/about/blog/03-19-2026-series-b

              How I read it: data harvesting at its finest 💁‍♀️

              #Bluesky

              stonedonkey@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #34

              @_elena they aren't investing this kind of money if there's not a path to more money... People are the only thing of value on the platform... It's the same crap all over again with what people think is a prettier bow.

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year? No I can't either.

                And from their actual press release: "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and other interactions that bring the ecosystem to life. It's an astonishing collection of what open social infrastructure makes possible."

                https://bsky.social/about/blog/03-19-2026-series-b

                How I read it: data harvesting at its finest 💁‍♀️

                #Bluesky

                monsieur_lepetit@toot.communityM This user is from outside of this forum
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                monsieur_lepetit@toot.community
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #35

                @_elena
                How many cats can get for this?

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year? No I can't either.

                  And from their actual press release: "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and other interactions that bring the ecosystem to life. It's an astonishing collection of what open social infrastructure makes possible."

                  https://bsky.social/about/blog/03-19-2026-series-b

                  How I read it: data harvesting at its finest 💁‍♀️

                  #Bluesky

                  torstentorsten@social.tchncs.deT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #36

                  @_elena "Open social infrastructure" - Haha, nice bullshit term.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year? No I can't either.

                    And from their actual press release: "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and other interactions that bring the ecosystem to life. It's an astonishing collection of what open social infrastructure makes possible."

                    https://bsky.social/about/blog/03-19-2026-series-b

                    How I read it: data harvesting at its finest 💁‍♀️

                    #Bluesky

                    archivescribe@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #37

                    @_elena This is disappointing. I hope the best for BlueSky, but I have a bad feeling this is going to come back to haunt them.

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                    • torstentorsten@social.tchncs.deT torstentorsten@social.tchncs.de

                      @_elena "Open social infrastructure" - Haha, nice bullshit term.

                      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #38

                      @torstentorsten open social web for crypto vcs = billions of open data points up for grabs / surveillance / monetization opportunities

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                      • mat@zelk.spaceM mat@zelk.space

                        @_elena permissive data/spaces is coming this year, and you can use E2EE messaging germ using your pds. if you want to delete any data, you can just connect to pds.ls and delete any record you want (e.g. all your likes, comments, etc)

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                        #39

                        @mat @_elena

                        if you post a public message, someone can ingest that message. there's no protection in what you're citing

                        (for the record, no such protection on public mastodon messages either)

                        you're claiming a protection that does not exist

                        bluesky is a capitalist endeavour funded by cryptobros, while mastodon is not. bluesky has a financial incentive to do quiet seedy things behind the scenes with your data mastodon does not. any secrecy like elena cites is a warning you should heed

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @mat @_elena

                          if you post a public message, someone can ingest that message. there's no protection in what you're citing

                          (for the record, no such protection on public mastodon messages either)

                          you're claiming a protection that does not exist

                          bluesky is a capitalist endeavour funded by cryptobros, while mastodon is not. bluesky has a financial incentive to do quiet seedy things behind the scenes with your data mastodon does not. any secrecy like elena cites is a warning you should heed

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                          #40

                          @benroyce @mat tangentially related but I'm beginning to think that maybe the whole point of the ATmosphere being open is to find a way to capture billions of data points for profiling / monetization purposes? I know everything is public here too, but the language of their press release gave me the creeps.

                          I may start referring to them as Blue$ky and the ATmo$phere.

                          I mean what's the draw otherwise for VCs and crypto bros?

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                          • stonedonkey@mastodon.socialS stonedonkey@mastodon.social

                            @_elena they aren't investing this kind of money if there's not a path to more money... People are the only thing of value on the platform... It's the same crap all over again with what people think is a prettier bow.

                            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #41

                            @stonedonkey totally

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                            • pouakai@mastodon.socialP pouakai@mastodon.social

                              @_elena
                              You'd scared me.
                              I really thought Mastodon did something sinister at the first glance XD

                              _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #42

                              @Pouakai OMG I'm so sorry 😅 yeah I should have phrased things differently, I was just so riled up

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Mike Masnick, who sits on the board of #Bluesky, claims the team was too busy to announce the series B funding (see screenshot).

                                But something is fishy.

                                Even the VC firm - Bain Capital Crypto - isn't listing Bluesky anywhere on their website: https://baincapitalcrypto.com/portfolio/

                                Why the mystery? Was Bluesky afraid of a public backlash & asked to keep the information under wraps?

                                Sorry if I keep repeating myself but I will forever be skeptical of Bluesky and think of the tale of the scorpion and the frog.

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                                #43

                                @_elena @benroyce Mike was a surprise with his siding with Bluesky.

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  @benroyce @mat tangentially related but I'm beginning to think that maybe the whole point of the ATmosphere being open is to find a way to capture billions of data points for profiling / monetization purposes? I know everything is public here too, but the language of their press release gave me the creeps.

                                  I may start referring to them as Blue$ky and the ATmo$phere.

                                  I mean what's the draw otherwise for VCs and crypto bros?

                                  benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #44

                                  @_elena @mat

                                  if a message is public, it's public. people need to understand anyone can scrape you, on any protocol

                                  but there is a difference between the fediverse which has no financial motivations, and bluesky, which does have creepy financial motivations. they can, and will, eventually, simply as a matter of the inevitable financial imperative of seedy cryptobro creeps, to do things with your data *on the inside*

                                  (private messages, linking it with data in other plutocrat silos, etc)

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    @benroyce @mat tangentially related but I'm beginning to think that maybe the whole point of the ATmosphere being open is to find a way to capture billions of data points for profiling / monetization purposes? I know everything is public here too, but the language of their press release gave me the creeps.

                                    I may start referring to them as Blue$ky and the ATmo$phere.

                                    I mean what's the draw otherwise for VCs and crypto bros?

                                    stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #45

                                    @_elena

                                    I've been feeling this way myself. A lot of what ATProto does well can be implemented in the fediverse, from what I've been reading, there's just not enough funding to get it done fast enough.

                                    @benroyce @mat

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                                    • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                      @_elena

                                      I've been feeling this way myself. A lot of what ATProto does well can be implemented in the fediverse, from what I've been reading, there's just not enough funding to get it done fast enough.

                                      @benroyce @mat

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                                      #46

                                      @stefan frankly I don't think that migrating from URLs to DIDs as identifiers would still qualify as the same protocol in the case of ActivityPub.

                                      So, if ActivityPub is the main component of the Fediverse - which it is for me - I don't think we'll be able to reproduce _all_ the functionality ATProto has.

                                      @_elena @benroyce @mat

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                                      • mariusor@metalhead.clubM mariusor@metalhead.club

                                        @stefan frankly I don't think that migrating from URLs to DIDs as identifiers would still qualify as the same protocol in the case of ActivityPub.

                                        So, if ActivityPub is the main component of the Fediverse - which it is for me - I don't think we'll be able to reproduce _all_ the functionality ATProto has.

                                        @_elena @benroyce @mat

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                                        #47

                                        @mariusor

                                        Right, I didn't say all of it, so I don't disagree. But we can definitely fix all the major issues people have with the fediverse in some way.

                                        @_elena @benroyce @mat

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                                        • tedmielczarek@mastodon.socialT tedmielczarek@mastodon.social

                                          @_elena all the startups I've worked for have blasted out press releases the moment their funding rounds closed. Part of being a startup means constantly vying for attention. This explanation does not hold up.

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                                          #48

                                          @tedmielczarek @_elena

                                          Is there any requirement to make it public within 1 year? otherwise I wonder why they're announcing it at all.

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