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You know what else about AI?

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  • impudentstrumpet@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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    #21

    @bignose @jilleduffy I like this infant analogy!

    If you don't hang out with the infant doing everyday stuff and are only parachuted in when they're crying, you'll have no idea why they're crying!

    Whereas if you're there all the time, you can go straight to "Oh, that's their 'I need to be burped again' face". And can probably even automatically prevent the crying by recognizing the face before the crying starts

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    • jilleduffy@mastodon.socialJ jilleduffy@mastodon.social

      You know what else about AI?

      People who hype it have no idea about diminishing returns

      We have decades of research showing that when people only work on the hard stuff at work and don't get sufficient breaks, they burn out faster

      If you're selling AI as a tool that "automates the mindless parts of work" then the worker is only left with the hard parts, and they burn out faster

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      #22

      @jilleduffy Agree, good post. People also tend to forget that the "mindless parts" are a great way to introduce juniors or new hires into a project or whatever.

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      • jilleduffy@mastodon.socialJ jilleduffy@mastodon.social

        You know what else about AI?

        People who hype it have no idea about diminishing returns

        We have decades of research showing that when people only work on the hard stuff at work and don't get sufficient breaks, they burn out faster

        If you're selling AI as a tool that "automates the mindless parts of work" then the worker is only left with the hard parts, and they burn out faster

        kaleemullahkalyar@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #23

        @jilleduffy yeah I agree, there is also another challenge, big tech giants are well positioned to take complete leverage from modern tech upgrades like MCP and using it as a paid service and doing tasks like web automation on the contrary individuals are restricted by buzz words like this is spam, privacy violations etc. double standards

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        • jilleduffy@mastodon.socialJ jilleduffy@mastodon.social

          You know what else about AI?

          People who hype it have no idea about diminishing returns

          We have decades of research showing that when people only work on the hard stuff at work and don't get sufficient breaks, they burn out faster

          If you're selling AI as a tool that "automates the mindless parts of work" then the worker is only left with the hard parts, and they burn out faster

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          #24

          @jilleduffy

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          • jilleduffy@mastodon.socialJ jilleduffy@mastodon.social

            @davidhmccoy This is the thing. AI might be fine for looking at large data sets of medical images, for example, and finding commonalities among images that did or did not develop into cancer 5 years later. That is a great use case. There may be other great use cases in a very specific profession, such as software development. But that is not what AI "hype" is. The hype says "if you don't figure out how to use it in ALL of your jobs, you will be left behind."

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            #25

            @jilleduffy @davidhmccoy this is not an example of generative AI (LLM), the subset of machine learning we all love to hate.
            The medical image application is based on identifying common factors where there is a yes/no discriminant: whether the imaged person went on to develop cancer or not.
            Generative AI is just fancy auto complete, it has no idea of truth and whatever it seems to claim when you prompt it is never tested for accuracy during training.

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            • jilleduffy@mastodon.socialJ jilleduffy@mastodon.social

              @davidhmccoy This is the thing. AI might be fine for looking at large data sets of medical images, for example, and finding commonalities among images that did or did not develop into cancer 5 years later. That is a great use case. There may be other great use cases in a very specific profession, such as software development. But that is not what AI "hype" is. The hype says "if you don't figure out how to use it in ALL of your jobs, you will be left behind."

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              #26

              @jilleduffy @davidhmccoy
              AI can be great for medical images, but not the LLM kind of AI

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              • jilleduffy@mastodon.socialJ jilleduffy@mastodon.social

                You know what else about AI?

                People who hype it have no idea about diminishing returns

                We have decades of research showing that when people only work on the hard stuff at work and don't get sufficient breaks, they burn out faster

                If you're selling AI as a tool that "automates the mindless parts of work" then the worker is only left with the hard parts, and they burn out faster

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                #27

                @jilleduffy there is an ideal reality where automation is inversely proportional to the amount of work people are doing and wages go up to lower the average weekly working hours.

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                • mu@mastodon.nzM mu@mastodon.nz

                  @hopeless @jilleduffy none of that other stuff has been resolved.

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                  #28

                  @mu @jilleduffy Right, the big sump of negative arguments can't be resolved, at least not quickly.

                  Some of it had a sell-by-date, like beliefs around AI not working or coding assists dumping training data.

                  Some of it is wrong, like coding assists "based on stealing" when most github stuff they trawled is MIT or other liberal license that's fine with it.

                  "Boiling the oceans" does not apply to selfhosted AI run on solar.

                  Some of it is like horse paste to an antivaxxer: evidence doesn't apply.

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                  • jilleduffy@mastodon.socialJ jilleduffy@mastodon.social

                    You know what else about AI?

                    People who hype it have no idea about diminishing returns

                    We have decades of research showing that when people only work on the hard stuff at work and don't get sufficient breaks, they burn out faster

                    If you're selling AI as a tool that "automates the mindless parts of work" then the worker is only left with the hard parts, and they burn out faster

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                    #29

                    @jilleduffy As ever, the very notion of balanced, holistic, empathic thinking and understanding is anathema or invisible to manic AI domination seeking corps.

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