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So which VPN are we switching to?

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  • gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #20

    @sharpcheddargoblin under a "sonic the hedgehog framework" proton seems the best

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    • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

      So which VPN are we switching to?

      mullvad: fash
      Mozilla: resells mullvad
      nym: fash
      ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
      Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
      ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
      proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
      surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
      purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
      tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
      obscura: partnered with mullvad

      riseup: runs on donations
      njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
      airvpn: ?
      hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
      xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

      #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

      gatrnerd@blimps.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
      gatrnerd@blimps.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #21

      @gildilinie So there are basically no VPNs. cool cool cool cool

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      • robinsyl@meow.socialR robinsyl@meow.social

        @gildilinie The Proton thing really shows that just being in Switzerland isn't a security model

        alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA This user is from outside of this forum
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        alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
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        #22
        @robinsyl @gildilinie they ain't even in switzerland anymore i believe
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        • gatrnerd@blimps.xyzG gatrnerd@blimps.xyz

          @gildilinie So there are basically no VPNs. cool cool cool cool

          gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #23

          @gatrnerd there's a bunch where we just don't really have much info on

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          • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
            @robinsyl @gildilinie they ain't even in switzerland anymore i believe
            thing@thegayagenda.fansT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #24

            @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @gildilinie@beige.party @robinsyl@meow.social yeah, they arent, after a bill switzerland passed which allowed surveillance or smth similar

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            • duxsco@fedifreu.deD duxsco@fedifreu.de

              @Guillotine_Jones @gildilinie fyi https://kumu.io/Windscribe/vpn-relationships#vpn-company-relationships/surfshark

              guillotine_jones@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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              guillotine_jones@beige.party
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              #25

              @duxsco @gildilinie
              Thank YOU, David, for providing this extremely revealing link to VPN provider relationships.

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              • gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #26

                @dvshkn i think hide.me, airvpn, and obscura could still be in the running

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                • gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #27

                  @dvshkn will be interesting to see if/how they respond to the latest revelations

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                  • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                    So which VPN are we switching to?

                    mullvad: fash
                    Mozilla: resells mullvad
                    nym: fash
                    ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                    Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                    ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                    proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                    surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                    purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                    tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                    obscura: partnered with mullvad

                    riseup: runs on donations
                    njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                    airvpn: ?
                    hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                    xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                    #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

                    gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #28

                    @fluffy you like hide.me ?

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                    • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                      @fluffy you like hide.me ?

                      jase@mastodon.artJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #29

                      @gildilinie @fluffy my few qualms with it honestly is well the company name eVenture, that doesn't sound very inviting nor does it sound inviting all the buzz word best vpn fastest in the world and so on. It seems a decent option besides that if there's good news about them, just I don't like all the buzz words and what a company name

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                      • jase@mastodon.artJ jase@mastodon.art

                        @gildilinie @fluffy my few qualms with it honestly is well the company name eVenture, that doesn't sound very inviting nor does it sound inviting all the buzz word best vpn fastest in the world and so on. It seems a decent option besides that if there's good news about them, just I don't like all the buzz words and what a company name

                        gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #30

                        @jase @fluffy (stockholder voice) eventure. its an electronic venture. *clicks to next slide*

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                        • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                          @jase @fluffy (stockholder voice) eventure. its an electronic venture. *clicks to next slide*

                          fluffy@plush.cityF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #31

                          @gildilinie @jase yeah the company name is super generic, but I've been happy with the VPN itself.

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                          • gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            gildilinie@beige.party
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                            #32

                            @passocacornio they do accept doge but I feel like that's kinda par for the course...

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                            • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                              So which VPN are we switching to?

                              mullvad: fash
                              Mozilla: resells mullvad
                              nym: fash
                              ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                              Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                              ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                              proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                              surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                              purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                              tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                              obscura: partnered with mullvad

                              riseup: runs on donations
                              njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                              airvpn: ?
                              hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                              xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                              #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

                              rib@fedi.rib.gayR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #33

                              @gildilinie IIRC Proton only turned over email data (which they kinda have to store being an email service, given email is inherently insecure), not VPN logs (which they don't store apparently). the trump donation is disappointing though.

                              Heard rumours that AirVPN is linked to organised crime but that could just be racism given they are Italian.

                              Cryptostorm might be an option, not heard much about them but they seem decent.

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                              • jase@mastodon.artJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #34

                                @gildilinie and the amount of new .social accounts advertising their very not sus VPNs lol

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                                • lunadragofelis@void.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #35
                                  @empathicqubit @gildilinie no
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                                  • rib@fedi.rib.gayR rib@fedi.rib.gay

                                    @gildilinie IIRC Proton only turned over email data (which they kinda have to store being an email service, given email is inherently insecure), not VPN logs (which they don't store apparently). the trump donation is disappointing though.

                                    Heard rumours that AirVPN is linked to organised crime but that could just be racism given they are Italian.

                                    Cryptostorm might be an option, not heard much about them but they seem decent.

                                    icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #36

                                    @Rib @gildilinie Honestly even if they /were/ linked to organized crime... I'd probably trust them more than an ISP. >,,>

                                    The mafia might break your legs for trying to stiff them, but they /probably/ aren't gonna come break your legs for getting off to The Wrong Kind Of Porn halfway around the planet

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                                    • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #37

                                      @gildilinie @Rib ah yes, the milfia </j>

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                                      • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

                                        @gildilinie @Rib ah yes, the milfia </j>

                                        gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        gildilinie@beige.party
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                                        #38

                                        @IceWolf seriously though similar argument as "what if its a government spook honeypot for the CIA"

                                        ok i guess? let me torrent some bits

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                                        • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                          @IceWolf seriously though similar argument as "what if its a government spook honeypot for the CIA"

                                          ok i guess? let me torrent some bits

                                          icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #39

                                          @gildilinie now the CIA I'd be concerned about, because we /are/ in the US and they'd apply to us...

                                          but that probably doesn't matter as much if you're somewhere else!

                                          Unless they just ship all their info off to your government, which might actually be pretty likely.

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