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So which VPN are we switching to?

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  • duxsco@fedifreu.deD duxsco@fedifreu.de

    @Guillotine_Jones @gildilinie fyi https://kumu.io/Windscribe/vpn-relationships#vpn-company-relationships/surfshark

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    #25

    @duxsco @gildilinie
    Thank YOU, David, for providing this extremely revealing link to VPN provider relationships.

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      #26

      @dvshkn i think hide.me, airvpn, and obscura could still be in the running

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        #27

        @dvshkn will be interesting to see if/how they respond to the latest revelations

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        • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

          So which VPN are we switching to?

          mullvad: fash
          Mozilla: resells mullvad
          nym: fash
          ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
          Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
          ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
          proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
          surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
          purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
          tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
          obscura: partnered with mullvad

          riseup: runs on donations
          njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
          airvpn: ?
          hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
          xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

          #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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          #28

          @fluffy you like hide.me ?

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          • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

            @fluffy you like hide.me ?

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            #29

            @gildilinie @fluffy my few qualms with it honestly is well the company name eVenture, that doesn't sound very inviting nor does it sound inviting all the buzz word best vpn fastest in the world and so on. It seems a decent option besides that if there's good news about them, just I don't like all the buzz words and what a company name

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            • jase@mastodon.artJ jase@mastodon.art

              @gildilinie @fluffy my few qualms with it honestly is well the company name eVenture, that doesn't sound very inviting nor does it sound inviting all the buzz word best vpn fastest in the world and so on. It seems a decent option besides that if there's good news about them, just I don't like all the buzz words and what a company name

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              #30

              @jase @fluffy (stockholder voice) eventure. its an electronic venture. *clicks to next slide*

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              • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                @jase @fluffy (stockholder voice) eventure. its an electronic venture. *clicks to next slide*

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                #31

                @gildilinie @jase yeah the company name is super generic, but I've been happy with the VPN itself.

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                  #32

                  @passocacornio they do accept doge but I feel like that's kinda par for the course...

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                  • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                    So which VPN are we switching to?

                    mullvad: fash
                    Mozilla: resells mullvad
                    nym: fash
                    ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                    Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                    ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                    proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                    surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                    purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                    tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                    obscura: partnered with mullvad

                    riseup: runs on donations
                    njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                    airvpn: ?
                    hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                    xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                    #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                    #33

                    @gildilinie IIRC Proton only turned over email data (which they kinda have to store being an email service, given email is inherently insecure), not VPN logs (which they don't store apparently). the trump donation is disappointing though.

                    Heard rumours that AirVPN is linked to organised crime but that could just be racism given they are Italian.

                    Cryptostorm might be an option, not heard much about them but they seem decent.

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                      #34

                      @gildilinie and the amount of new .social accounts advertising their very not sus VPNs lol

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                        #35
                        @empathicqubit @gildilinie no
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                        • rib@fedi.rib.gayR rib@fedi.rib.gay

                          @gildilinie IIRC Proton only turned over email data (which they kinda have to store being an email service, given email is inherently insecure), not VPN logs (which they don't store apparently). the trump donation is disappointing though.

                          Heard rumours that AirVPN is linked to organised crime but that could just be racism given they are Italian.

                          Cryptostorm might be an option, not heard much about them but they seem decent.

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                          #36

                          @Rib @gildilinie Honestly even if they /were/ linked to organized crime... I'd probably trust them more than an ISP. >,,>

                          The mafia might break your legs for trying to stiff them, but they /probably/ aren't gonna come break your legs for getting off to The Wrong Kind Of Porn halfway around the planet

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                            @gildilinie @Rib ah yes, the milfia </j>

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                            • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

                              @gildilinie @Rib ah yes, the milfia </j>

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                              #38

                              @IceWolf seriously though similar argument as "what if its a government spook honeypot for the CIA"

                              ok i guess? let me torrent some bits

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                              • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                @IceWolf seriously though similar argument as "what if its a government spook honeypot for the CIA"

                                ok i guess? let me torrent some bits

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                                #39

                                @gildilinie now the CIA I'd be concerned about, because we /are/ in the US and they'd apply to us...

                                but that probably doesn't matter as much if you're somewhere else!

                                Unless they just ship all their info off to your government, which might actually be pretty likely.

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                                • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

                                  @gildilinie now the CIA I'd be concerned about, because we /are/ in the US and they'd apply to us...

                                  but that probably doesn't matter as much if you're somewhere else!

                                  Unless they just ship all their info off to your government, which might actually be pretty likely.

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                                  #40

                                  @gildilinie doesn't really matter for torrenting though

                                  probably more important for Wrong Kind Of Porn stuff or political-dissent stuff

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                                  • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                    @IceWolf im in canada. that makes shit that might be a chinese honeypot more appealing...

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                                    @gildilinie haha honestly yeah

                                    "oh no, chinese government spying!" well, it's better than the US government spying,

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                                    • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

                                      @gildilinie now the CIA I'd be concerned about, because we /are/ in the US and they'd apply to us...

                                      but that probably doesn't matter as much if you're somewhere else!

                                      Unless they just ship all their info off to your government, which might actually be pretty likely.

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                                      @IceWolf im in canada. that makes shit that might be a chinese honeypot more appealing...

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                                      • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

                                        @gildilinie haha honestly yeah

                                        "oh no, chinese government spying!" well, it's better than the US government spying,

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                                        #43

                                        @IceWolf but honestly is the CIA gonna divulge the Master List and blow up their honeypot op to get me? maybe. i am transgender

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                                        • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                          @IceWolf but honestly is the CIA gonna divulge the Master List and blow up their honeypot op to get me? maybe. i am transgender

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                                          #44

                                          @gildilinie haha good point...

                                          I was thinking less "Master List" and more "regularly gives various governments info on /all/ their own citizens, and the other governments probably do the same back, to get around any and all "you can't spy on your own citizens that'd be blatantly dystopian" laws"

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