So which VPN are we switching to?
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So which VPN are we switching to?
mullvad: fash
Mozilla: resells mullvad
nym: fash
ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
obscura: partnered with mullvadriseup: runs on donations
njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
airvpn: ?
hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism@gildilinie IIRC Proton only turned over email data (which they kinda have to store being an email service, given email is inherently insecure), not VPN logs (which they don't store apparently). the trump donation is disappointing though.
Heard rumours that AirVPN is linked to organised crime but that could just be racism given they are Italian.
Cryptostorm might be an option, not heard much about them but they seem decent. -
@gildilinie and the amount of new .social accounts advertising their very not sus VPNs lol
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@gildilinie IIRC Proton only turned over email data (which they kinda have to store being an email service, given email is inherently insecure), not VPN logs (which they don't store apparently). the trump donation is disappointing though.
Heard rumours that AirVPN is linked to organised crime but that could just be racism given they are Italian.
Cryptostorm might be an option, not heard much about them but they seem decent.@Rib @gildilinie Honestly even if they /were/ linked to organized crime... I'd probably trust them more than an ISP. >,,>
The mafia might break your legs for trying to stiff them, but they /probably/ aren't gonna come break your legs for getting off to The Wrong Kind Of Porn halfway around the planet
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@gildilinie @Rib ah yes, the milfia </j>
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@gildilinie @Rib ah yes, the milfia </j>
@IceWolf seriously though similar argument as "what if its a government spook honeypot for the CIA"
ok i guess? let me torrent some bits
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@IceWolf seriously though similar argument as "what if its a government spook honeypot for the CIA"
ok i guess? let me torrent some bits
@gildilinie now the CIA I'd be concerned about, because we /are/ in the US and they'd apply to us...
but that probably doesn't matter as much if you're somewhere else!
Unless they just ship all their info off to your government, which might actually be pretty likely.
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@gildilinie now the CIA I'd be concerned about, because we /are/ in the US and they'd apply to us...
but that probably doesn't matter as much if you're somewhere else!
Unless they just ship all their info off to your government, which might actually be pretty likely.
@gildilinie doesn't really matter for torrenting though
probably more important for Wrong Kind Of Porn stuff or political-dissent stuff
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@IceWolf im in canada. that makes shit that might be a chinese honeypot more appealing...
@gildilinie haha honestly yeah
"oh no, chinese government spying!" well, it's better than the US government spying,
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@gildilinie now the CIA I'd be concerned about, because we /are/ in the US and they'd apply to us...
but that probably doesn't matter as much if you're somewhere else!
Unless they just ship all their info off to your government, which might actually be pretty likely.
@IceWolf im in canada. that makes shit that might be a chinese honeypot more appealing...
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@gildilinie haha honestly yeah
"oh no, chinese government spying!" well, it's better than the US government spying,
@IceWolf but honestly is the CIA gonna divulge the Master List and blow up their honeypot op to get me? maybe. i am transgender
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@IceWolf but honestly is the CIA gonna divulge the Master List and blow up their honeypot op to get me? maybe. i am transgender
@gildilinie haha good point...
I was thinking less "Master List" and more "regularly gives various governments info on /all/ their own citizens, and the other governments probably do the same back, to get around any and all "you can't spy on your own citizens that'd be blatantly dystopian" laws"
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@gildilinie haha good point...
I was thinking less "Master List" and more "regularly gives various governments info on /all/ their own citizens, and the other governments probably do the same back, to get around any and all "you can't spy on your own citizens that'd be blatantly dystopian" laws"
@IceWolf like we've seen this go down. The fbi built that anonymous phone provider for drug dealers and they used it to bust a bunch of organized crime. The problem is once you use it, the honeypot is burned
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@IceWolf like we've seen this go down. The fbi built that anonymous phone provider for drug dealers and they used it to bust a bunch of organized crime. The problem is once you use it, the honeypot is burned
@gildilinie oh right, yeah, I somehow forgot the whole "using a specific honeypot, rather than their more general Wiretap Everything" thing
yeahh
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@IceWolf like we've seen this go down. The fbi built that anonymous phone provider for drug dealers and they used it to bust a bunch of organized crime. The problem is once you use it, the honeypot is burned
@IceWolf so its highly unlikely they'd burn a honeypot to bust me on getting around the soccer game streaming block
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@IceWolf so its highly unlikely they'd burn a honeypot to bust me on getting around the soccer game streaming block
@gildilinie Oh pff yeah, especially if you're just streaming (probably even torrenting) rather than Being Into EEEEVIL Stuff!! or criticizing the government or whatnot.
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@gildilinie Oh pff yeah, especially if you're just streaming (probably even torrenting) rather than Being Into EEEEVIL Stuff!! or criticizing the government or whatnot.
@IceWolf ill criticize the government with my legal signature on it
the only reason i stay pseudoanonymous on here is because i dont want some xtian seeing me make a joke about transgender boobs or some shit and calling my boss -
@IceWolf ill criticize the government with my legal signature on it
the only reason i stay pseudoanonymous on here is because i dont want some xtian seeing me make a joke about transgender boobs or some shit and calling my boss@gildilinie Nice.
Yeah, it's not that bad in Canada right now fortunately... I really don't know about the US
most of the reason we're pseudonymous on here is pretty similar to yours, more about dirtspace people being weird/shitty about stuff than about oppression.
(well actually, the other big reason is that our legal name is not any of our actual names. hah. but y'know)
also the vore jokes/hornyposting :3
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@IceWolf ill criticize the government with my legal signature on it
the only reason i stay pseudoanonymous on here is because i dont want some xtian seeing me make a joke about transgender boobs or some shit and calling my boss@IceWolf but vpns are pretty useful for a lot of mundane shit like, preventing facebook from tracking you (when combined with proper cookie hygene), torrenting bits, getting around age verification if that's happening your jurisdiction, blah blah
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@IceWolf but vpns are pretty useful for a lot of mundane shit like, preventing facebook from tracking you (when combined with proper cookie hygene), torrenting bits, getting around age verification if that's happening your jurisdiction, blah blah
@gildilinie I didn't even think about facebook tracking and stuff!
We should probably start paying for a VPN again (we were on AirVPN for a while, switched from Mullvad because port forwarding, had no issues with AirVPN just didn't bother renewing).
