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  • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

    @gildilinie now the CIA I'd be concerned about, because we /are/ in the US and they'd apply to us...

    but that probably doesn't matter as much if you're somewhere else!

    Unless they just ship all their info off to your government, which might actually be pretty likely.

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    #42

    @IceWolf im in canada. that makes shit that might be a chinese honeypot more appealing...

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    • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

      @gildilinie haha honestly yeah

      "oh no, chinese government spying!" well, it's better than the US government spying,

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      #43

      @IceWolf but honestly is the CIA gonna divulge the Master List and blow up their honeypot op to get me? maybe. i am transgender

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      • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

        @IceWolf but honestly is the CIA gonna divulge the Master List and blow up their honeypot op to get me? maybe. i am transgender

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        #44

        @gildilinie haha good point...

        I was thinking less "Master List" and more "regularly gives various governments info on /all/ their own citizens, and the other governments probably do the same back, to get around any and all "you can't spy on your own citizens that'd be blatantly dystopian" laws"

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        • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

          @gildilinie haha good point...

          I was thinking less "Master List" and more "regularly gives various governments info on /all/ their own citizens, and the other governments probably do the same back, to get around any and all "you can't spy on your own citizens that'd be blatantly dystopian" laws"

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          #45

          @IceWolf like we've seen this go down. The fbi built that anonymous phone provider for drug dealers and they used it to bust a bunch of organized crime. The problem is once you use it, the honeypot is burned

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          • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

            @IceWolf like we've seen this go down. The fbi built that anonymous phone provider for drug dealers and they used it to bust a bunch of organized crime. The problem is once you use it, the honeypot is burned

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            #46

            @gildilinie oh right, yeah, I somehow forgot the whole "using a specific honeypot, rather than their more general Wiretap Everything" thing

            yeahh

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            • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

              @IceWolf like we've seen this go down. The fbi built that anonymous phone provider for drug dealers and they used it to bust a bunch of organized crime. The problem is once you use it, the honeypot is burned

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              #47

              @IceWolf so its highly unlikely they'd burn a honeypot to bust me on getting around the soccer game streaming block

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              • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                @IceWolf so its highly unlikely they'd burn a honeypot to bust me on getting around the soccer game streaming block

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                #48

                @gildilinie Oh pff yeah, especially if you're just streaming (probably even torrenting) rather than Being Into EEEEVIL Stuff!! or criticizing the government or whatnot.

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                • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

                  @gildilinie Oh pff yeah, especially if you're just streaming (probably even torrenting) rather than Being Into EEEEVIL Stuff!! or criticizing the government or whatnot.

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                  #49

                  @IceWolf ill criticize the government with my legal signature on it 🖕 the only reason i stay pseudoanonymous on here is because i dont want some xtian seeing me make a joke about transgender boobs or some shit and calling my boss

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                  • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                    @IceWolf ill criticize the government with my legal signature on it 🖕 the only reason i stay pseudoanonymous on here is because i dont want some xtian seeing me make a joke about transgender boobs or some shit and calling my boss

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                    #50

                    @gildilinie Nice.

                    Yeah, it's not that bad in Canada right now fortunately... I really don't know about the US

                    most of the reason we're pseudonymous on here is pretty similar to yours, more about dirtspace people being weird/shitty about stuff than about oppression.

                    (well actually, the other big reason is that our legal name is not any of our actual names. hah. but y'know)

                    also the vore jokes/hornyposting :3

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                    • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                      @IceWolf ill criticize the government with my legal signature on it 🖕 the only reason i stay pseudoanonymous on here is because i dont want some xtian seeing me make a joke about transgender boobs or some shit and calling my boss

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                      #51

                      @IceWolf but vpns are pretty useful for a lot of mundane shit like, preventing facebook from tracking you (when combined with proper cookie hygene), torrenting bits, getting around age verification if that's happening your jurisdiction, blah blah

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                      • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                        @IceWolf but vpns are pretty useful for a lot of mundane shit like, preventing facebook from tracking you (when combined with proper cookie hygene), torrenting bits, getting around age verification if that's happening your jurisdiction, blah blah

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                        #52

                        @gildilinie I didn't even think about facebook tracking and stuff!

                        We should probably start paying for a VPN again (we were on AirVPN for a while, switched from Mullvad because port forwarding, had no issues with AirVPN just didn't bother renewing).

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                        • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

                          @gildilinie I didn't even think about facebook tracking and stuff!

                          We should probably start paying for a VPN again (we were on AirVPN for a while, switched from Mullvad because port forwarding, had no issues with AirVPN just didn't bother renewing).

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                          #53

                          @IceWolf ya its really funny if you're coming from a VPN IP instead of residential, with adblocking and cookie hygiene google won't serve you AI overviews. you're not worth the compute

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                          • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                            @IceWolf ya its really funny if you're coming from a VPN IP instead of residential, with adblocking and cookie hygiene google won't serve you AI overviews. you're not worth the compute

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                            #54

                            @gildilinie wow huh! nice :V

                            also reddit straight-up blocks you if you use VPNs

                            when we used a VPN on Ikea's wifi to get around their ridiculous "you can't use anything that's not HTTPS, like say SSH" restrictions (another reason!), we couldn't load reddit pages at all

                            which kinda sucks for researching anything. reddit is hell but it's really hard to find actual people anywhere else from a web search these days...

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                            • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

                              @gildilinie wow huh! nice :V

                              also reddit straight-up blocks you if you use VPNs

                              when we used a VPN on Ikea's wifi to get around their ridiculous "you can't use anything that's not HTTPS, like say SSH" restrictions (another reason!), we couldn't load reddit pages at all

                              which kinda sucks for researching anything. reddit is hell but it's really hard to find actual people anywhere else from a web search these days...

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                              #55

                              @IceWolf don't worry, the chatbot makers also realized this, so they started leaning on reddit to feed data to chatbots super hard, then the scammers realized this, and the new field if AEO (ai experience optimization) was born... reddit is now full of spam meant to manipulate chatbots

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                              • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                @IceWolf don't worry, the chatbot makers also realized this, so they started leaning on reddit to feed data to chatbots super hard, then the scammers realized this, and the new field if AEO (ai experience optimization) was born... reddit is now full of spam meant to manipulate chatbots

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                                #56

                                @gildilinie yiiiikes

                                I wonder if we've run into that or not, Not sure how easy it is to tell.

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                                • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                  So which VPN are we switching to?

                                  mullvad: fash
                                  Mozilla: resells mullvad
                                  nym: fash
                                  ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                                  Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                                  ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                                  proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                                  surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                                  purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                                  tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                                  obscura: partnered with mullvad

                                  riseup: runs on donations
                                  njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                                  airvpn: ?
                                  hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                                  xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                                  #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                                  #57

                                  @gildilinie Very curious what people settle on here, I'd love to know what to recommend.

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                                  • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                    So which VPN are we switching to?

                                    mullvad: fash
                                    Mozilla: resells mullvad
                                    nym: fash
                                    ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                                    Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                                    ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                                    proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                                    surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                                    purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                                    tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                                    obscura: partnered with mullvad

                                    riseup: runs on donations
                                    njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                                    airvpn: ?
                                    hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                                    xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                                    #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                                    #58

                                    i am currently trialing hide.me

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                                    • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                      So which VPN are we switching to?

                                      mullvad: fash
                                      Mozilla: resells mullvad
                                      nym: fash
                                      ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                                      Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                                      ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                                      proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                                      surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                                      purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                                      tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                                      obscura: partnered with mullvad

                                      riseup: runs on donations
                                      njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                                      airvpn: ?
                                      hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                                      xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                                      #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                                      #59

                                      @gildilinie thanks for tracking down all this info

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                                      • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                        i am currently trialing hide.me

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                                        #60

                                        @gildilinie
                                        Just want to express my thanks to you again for doing all this research on VPNs, Gildlinie!

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                                        • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                          So which VPN are we switching to?

                                          mullvad: fash
                                          Mozilla: resells mullvad
                                          nym: fash
                                          ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                                          Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                                          ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                                          proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                                          surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                                          purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                                          tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                                          obscura: partnered with mullvad

                                          riseup: runs on donations
                                          njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                                          airvpn: ?
                                          hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                                          xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                                          #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                                          #61

                                          @gildilinie AirVPN's website looking like something out of the late 90s is hella sus to me.

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