So which VPN are we switching to?
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@gildilinie haha good point...
I was thinking less "Master List" and more "regularly gives various governments info on /all/ their own citizens, and the other governments probably do the same back, to get around any and all "you can't spy on your own citizens that'd be blatantly dystopian" laws"
@IceWolf like we've seen this go down. The fbi built that anonymous phone provider for drug dealers and they used it to bust a bunch of organized crime. The problem is once you use it, the honeypot is burned
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@IceWolf like we've seen this go down. The fbi built that anonymous phone provider for drug dealers and they used it to bust a bunch of organized crime. The problem is once you use it, the honeypot is burned
@gildilinie oh right, yeah, I somehow forgot the whole "using a specific honeypot, rather than their more general Wiretap Everything" thing
yeahh
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@IceWolf like we've seen this go down. The fbi built that anonymous phone provider for drug dealers and they used it to bust a bunch of organized crime. The problem is once you use it, the honeypot is burned
@IceWolf so its highly unlikely they'd burn a honeypot to bust me on getting around the soccer game streaming block
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@IceWolf so its highly unlikely they'd burn a honeypot to bust me on getting around the soccer game streaming block
@gildilinie Oh pff yeah, especially if you're just streaming (probably even torrenting) rather than Being Into EEEEVIL Stuff!! or criticizing the government or whatnot.
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@gildilinie Oh pff yeah, especially if you're just streaming (probably even torrenting) rather than Being Into EEEEVIL Stuff!! or criticizing the government or whatnot.
@IceWolf ill criticize the government with my legal signature on it
the only reason i stay pseudoanonymous on here is because i dont want some xtian seeing me make a joke about transgender boobs or some shit and calling my boss -
@IceWolf ill criticize the government with my legal signature on it
the only reason i stay pseudoanonymous on here is because i dont want some xtian seeing me make a joke about transgender boobs or some shit and calling my boss@gildilinie Nice.
Yeah, it's not that bad in Canada right now fortunately... I really don't know about the US
most of the reason we're pseudonymous on here is pretty similar to yours, more about dirtspace people being weird/shitty about stuff than about oppression.
(well actually, the other big reason is that our legal name is not any of our actual names. hah. but y'know)
also the vore jokes/hornyposting :3
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@IceWolf ill criticize the government with my legal signature on it
the only reason i stay pseudoanonymous on here is because i dont want some xtian seeing me make a joke about transgender boobs or some shit and calling my boss@IceWolf but vpns are pretty useful for a lot of mundane shit like, preventing facebook from tracking you (when combined with proper cookie hygene), torrenting bits, getting around age verification if that's happening your jurisdiction, blah blah
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@IceWolf but vpns are pretty useful for a lot of mundane shit like, preventing facebook from tracking you (when combined with proper cookie hygene), torrenting bits, getting around age verification if that's happening your jurisdiction, blah blah
@gildilinie I didn't even think about facebook tracking and stuff!
We should probably start paying for a VPN again (we were on AirVPN for a while, switched from Mullvad because port forwarding, had no issues with AirVPN just didn't bother renewing).
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@gildilinie I didn't even think about facebook tracking and stuff!
We should probably start paying for a VPN again (we were on AirVPN for a while, switched from Mullvad because port forwarding, had no issues with AirVPN just didn't bother renewing).
@IceWolf ya its really funny if you're coming from a VPN IP instead of residential, with adblocking and cookie hygiene google won't serve you AI overviews. you're not worth the compute
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@IceWolf ya its really funny if you're coming from a VPN IP instead of residential, with adblocking and cookie hygiene google won't serve you AI overviews. you're not worth the compute
@gildilinie wow huh! nice :V
also reddit straight-up blocks you if you use VPNs
when we used a VPN on Ikea's wifi to get around their ridiculous "you can't use anything that's not HTTPS, like say SSH" restrictions (another reason!), we couldn't load reddit pages at all
which kinda sucks for researching anything. reddit is hell but it's really hard to find actual people anywhere else from a web search these days...
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@gildilinie wow huh! nice :V
also reddit straight-up blocks you if you use VPNs
when we used a VPN on Ikea's wifi to get around their ridiculous "you can't use anything that's not HTTPS, like say SSH" restrictions (another reason!), we couldn't load reddit pages at all
which kinda sucks for researching anything. reddit is hell but it's really hard to find actual people anywhere else from a web search these days...
@IceWolf don't worry, the chatbot makers also realized this, so they started leaning on reddit to feed data to chatbots super hard, then the scammers realized this, and the new field if AEO (ai experience optimization) was born... reddit is now full of spam meant to manipulate chatbots
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@IceWolf don't worry, the chatbot makers also realized this, so they started leaning on reddit to feed data to chatbots super hard, then the scammers realized this, and the new field if AEO (ai experience optimization) was born... reddit is now full of spam meant to manipulate chatbots
@gildilinie yiiiikes
I wonder if we've run into that or not, Not sure how easy it is to tell.
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So which VPN are we switching to?
mullvad: fash
Mozilla: resells mullvad
nym: fash
ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
obscura: partnered with mullvadriseup: runs on donations
njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
airvpn: ?
hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism@gildilinie Very curious what people settle on here, I'd love to know what to recommend.
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So which VPN are we switching to?
mullvad: fash
Mozilla: resells mullvad
nym: fash
ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
obscura: partnered with mullvadriseup: runs on donations
njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
airvpn: ?
hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facismi am currently trialing hide.me
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So which VPN are we switching to?
mullvad: fash
Mozilla: resells mullvad
nym: fash
ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
obscura: partnered with mullvadriseup: runs on donations
njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
airvpn: ?
hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism@gildilinie thanks for tracking down all this info
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i am currently trialing hide.me
@gildilinie
Just want to express my thanks to you again for doing all this research on VPNs, Gildlinie! -
So which VPN are we switching to?
mullvad: fash
Mozilla: resells mullvad
nym: fash
ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
obscura: partnered with mullvadriseup: runs on donations
njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
airvpn: ?
hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism@gildilinie AirVPN's website looking like something out of the late 90s is hella sus to me.
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@gildilinie Well one problem with them is that they have no audits, which i admit is kinda bad because we can really only take their word for it. And also someone said something vague about the quality not being being great, but then others said it's nice.
@catraxx@tech.lgbt @gildilinie@beige.party i'm on airvpn now because it's one of the few that offers port forwarding
servers are sometimes really slow but they have a decent number of them. their apps are kind of bad and they make it annoying to download multiple configs but it works ok overall
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@gildilinie AirVPN's website looking like something out of the late 90s is hella sus to me.
@avatastic someone vaguely remembered they tweeted transphobia but that's not enough for me bc it could be misremembering
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@avatastic someone vaguely remembered they tweeted transphobia but that's not enough for me bc it could be misremembering
@gildilinie I'm also drawing a parallel between something TIL, that hackaday (which looks a little dated and janky) is owned by Siemens (although a recent acquisition as I understand it).
Still a professional service looking like it's running phpBB ... the flags ain't green over here.
