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So which VPN are we switching to?

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  • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

    @gildilinie I didn't even think about facebook tracking and stuff!

    We should probably start paying for a VPN again (we were on AirVPN for a while, switched from Mullvad because port forwarding, had no issues with AirVPN just didn't bother renewing).

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    #53

    @IceWolf ya its really funny if you're coming from a VPN IP instead of residential, with adblocking and cookie hygiene google won't serve you AI overviews. you're not worth the compute

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    • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

      @IceWolf ya its really funny if you're coming from a VPN IP instead of residential, with adblocking and cookie hygiene google won't serve you AI overviews. you're not worth the compute

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      #54

      @gildilinie wow huh! nice :V

      also reddit straight-up blocks you if you use VPNs

      when we used a VPN on Ikea's wifi to get around their ridiculous "you can't use anything that's not HTTPS, like say SSH" restrictions (another reason!), we couldn't load reddit pages at all

      which kinda sucks for researching anything. reddit is hell but it's really hard to find actual people anywhere else from a web search these days...

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      • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

        @gildilinie wow huh! nice :V

        also reddit straight-up blocks you if you use VPNs

        when we used a VPN on Ikea's wifi to get around their ridiculous "you can't use anything that's not HTTPS, like say SSH" restrictions (another reason!), we couldn't load reddit pages at all

        which kinda sucks for researching anything. reddit is hell but it's really hard to find actual people anywhere else from a web search these days...

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        #55

        @IceWolf don't worry, the chatbot makers also realized this, so they started leaning on reddit to feed data to chatbots super hard, then the scammers realized this, and the new field if AEO (ai experience optimization) was born... reddit is now full of spam meant to manipulate chatbots

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        • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

          @IceWolf don't worry, the chatbot makers also realized this, so they started leaning on reddit to feed data to chatbots super hard, then the scammers realized this, and the new field if AEO (ai experience optimization) was born... reddit is now full of spam meant to manipulate chatbots

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          #56

          @gildilinie yiiiikes

          I wonder if we've run into that or not, Not sure how easy it is to tell.

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          • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

            So which VPN are we switching to?

            mullvad: fash
            Mozilla: resells mullvad
            nym: fash
            ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
            Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
            ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
            proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
            surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
            purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
            tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
            obscura: partnered with mullvad

            riseup: runs on donations
            njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
            airvpn: ?
            hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
            xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

            #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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            #57

            @gildilinie Very curious what people settle on here, I'd love to know what to recommend.

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            • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

              So which VPN are we switching to?

              mullvad: fash
              Mozilla: resells mullvad
              nym: fash
              ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
              Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
              ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
              proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
              surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
              purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
              tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
              obscura: partnered with mullvad

              riseup: runs on donations
              njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
              airvpn: ?
              hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
              xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

              #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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              #58

              i am currently trialing hide.me

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              • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                So which VPN are we switching to?

                mullvad: fash
                Mozilla: resells mullvad
                nym: fash
                ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                obscura: partnered with mullvad

                riseup: runs on donations
                njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                airvpn: ?
                hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                #59

                @gildilinie thanks for tracking down all this info

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                • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                  i am currently trialing hide.me

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                  #60

                  @gildilinie
                  Just want to express my thanks to you again for doing all this research on VPNs, Gildlinie!

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                  • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                    So which VPN are we switching to?

                    mullvad: fash
                    Mozilla: resells mullvad
                    nym: fash
                    ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                    Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                    ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                    proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                    surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                    purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                    tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                    obscura: partnered with mullvad

                    riseup: runs on donations
                    njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                    airvpn: ?
                    hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                    xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                    #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

                    avatastic@avatastic.ukA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #61

                    @gildilinie AirVPN's website looking like something out of the late 90s is hella sus to me.

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                    • catraxx@tech.lgbtC catraxx@tech.lgbt

                      @gildilinie Well one problem with them is that they have no audits, which i admit is kinda bad because we can really only take their word for it. And also someone said something vague about the quality not being being great, but then others said it's nice.

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                      #62

                      @catraxx@tech.lgbt @gildilinie@beige.party i'm on airvpn now because it's one of the few that offers port forwarding

                      servers are sometimes really slow but they have a decent number of them. their apps are kind of bad and they make it annoying to download multiple configs but it works ok overall

                      i haven't looked into their business practices much tho

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                      • avatastic@avatastic.ukA avatastic@avatastic.uk

                        @gildilinie AirVPN's website looking like something out of the late 90s is hella sus to me.

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                        #63

                        @avatastic someone vaguely remembered they tweeted transphobia but that's not enough for me bc it could be misremembering

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                        • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                          @avatastic someone vaguely remembered they tweeted transphobia but that's not enough for me bc it could be misremembering

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                          #64

                          @gildilinie I'm also drawing a parallel between something TIL, that hackaday (which looks a little dated and janky) is owned by Siemens (although a recent acquisition as I understand it).

                          Still a professional service looking like it's running phpBB ... the flags ain't green over here.

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                          • guillotine_jones@beige.partyG guillotine_jones@beige.party

                            @gildilinie
                            Just want to express my thanks to you again for doing all this research on VPNs, Gildlinie!

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                            #65

                            @Guillotine_Jones I do this kind of research on a lot of my purchases...

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                            • jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.netJ jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.net

                              @catraxx@tech.lgbt @gildilinie@beige.party i'm on airvpn now because it's one of the few that offers port forwarding

                              servers are sometimes really slow but they have a decent number of them. their apps are kind of bad and they make it annoying to download multiple configs but it works ok overall

                              i haven't looked into their business practices much tho

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                              #66

                              @jiub @gildilinie Ohhh, i see! Thank you!

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                              • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                So which VPN are we switching to?

                                mullvad: fash
                                Mozilla: resells mullvad
                                nym: fash
                                ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                                Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                                ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                                proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                                surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                                purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                                tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                                obscura: partnered with mullvad

                                riseup: runs on donations
                                njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                                airvpn: ?
                                hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                                xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                                #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                                #67

                                @gildilinie Unfortunately looks like hide.me shill for crypto and NFT too.

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                                • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                  So which VPN are we switching to?

                                  mullvad: fash
                                  Mozilla: resells mullvad
                                  nym: fash
                                  ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                                  Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                                  ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                                  proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                                  surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                                  purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                                  tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                                  obscura: partnered with mullvad

                                  riseup: runs on donations
                                  njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                                  airvpn: ?
                                  hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                                  xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                                  #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                                  #68

                                  @gildilinie I find this all disconcerting. I would trust Mullvad. I used to use there service and pay with cash and they always added the allotted time and then some.

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                                  • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                    So which VPN are we switching to?

                                    mullvad: fash
                                    Mozilla: resells mullvad
                                    nym: fash
                                    ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                                    Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                                    ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                                    proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                                    surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                                    purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                                    tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                                    obscura: partnered with mullvad

                                    riseup: runs on donations
                                    njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                                    airvpn: ?
                                    hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                                    xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                                    #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                                    #69

                                    @gildilinie But, getting your own VPS and running your own wireguard or tailscale vpn may be more of what you are looking for.

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                                    • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                      So which VPN are we switching to?

                                      mullvad: fash
                                      Mozilla: resells mullvad
                                      nym: fash
                                      ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                                      Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                                      ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                                      proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                                      surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                                      purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                                      tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                                      obscura: partnered with mullvad

                                      riseup: runs on donations
                                      njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                                      airvpn: ?
                                      hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                                      xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                                      #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                                      #70

                                      @gildilinie personally I use one on my router, one on my desktop and one in a vm plus tor if I am concerned about it.

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