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So which VPN are we switching to?

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  • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

    @gildilinie wow huh! nice :V

    also reddit straight-up blocks you if you use VPNs

    when we used a VPN on Ikea's wifi to get around their ridiculous "you can't use anything that's not HTTPS, like say SSH" restrictions (another reason!), we couldn't load reddit pages at all

    which kinda sucks for researching anything. reddit is hell but it's really hard to find actual people anywhere else from a web search these days...

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    #55

    @IceWolf don't worry, the chatbot makers also realized this, so they started leaning on reddit to feed data to chatbots super hard, then the scammers realized this, and the new field if AEO (ai experience optimization) was born... reddit is now full of spam meant to manipulate chatbots

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    • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

      @IceWolf don't worry, the chatbot makers also realized this, so they started leaning on reddit to feed data to chatbots super hard, then the scammers realized this, and the new field if AEO (ai experience optimization) was born... reddit is now full of spam meant to manipulate chatbots

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      #56

      @gildilinie yiiiikes

      I wonder if we've run into that or not, Not sure how easy it is to tell.

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      • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

        So which VPN are we switching to?

        mullvad: fash
        Mozilla: resells mullvad
        nym: fash
        ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
        Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
        ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
        proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
        surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
        purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
        tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
        obscura: partnered with mullvad

        riseup: runs on donations
        njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
        airvpn: ?
        hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
        xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

        #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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        #57

        @gildilinie Very curious what people settle on here, I'd love to know what to recommend.

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        • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

          So which VPN are we switching to?

          mullvad: fash
          Mozilla: resells mullvad
          nym: fash
          ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
          Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
          ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
          proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
          surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
          purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
          tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
          obscura: partnered with mullvad

          riseup: runs on donations
          njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
          airvpn: ?
          hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
          xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

          #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

          gildilinie@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #58

          i am currently trialing hide.me

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          • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

            So which VPN are we switching to?

            mullvad: fash
            Mozilla: resells mullvad
            nym: fash
            ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
            Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
            ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
            proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
            surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
            purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
            tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
            obscura: partnered with mullvad

            riseup: runs on donations
            njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
            airvpn: ?
            hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
            xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

            #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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            #59

            @gildilinie thanks for tracking down all this info

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            • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

              i am currently trialing hide.me

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              #60

              @gildilinie
              Just want to express my thanks to you again for doing all this research on VPNs, Gildlinie!

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              • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                So which VPN are we switching to?

                mullvad: fash
                Mozilla: resells mullvad
                nym: fash
                ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                obscura: partnered with mullvad

                riseup: runs on donations
                njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                airvpn: ?
                hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

                avatastic@avatastic.ukA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #61

                @gildilinie AirVPN's website looking like something out of the late 90s is hella sus to me.

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                • catraxx@tech.lgbtC catraxx@tech.lgbt

                  @gildilinie Well one problem with them is that they have no audits, which i admit is kinda bad because we can really only take their word for it. And also someone said something vague about the quality not being being great, but then others said it's nice.

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                  #62

                  @catraxx@tech.lgbt @gildilinie@beige.party i'm on airvpn now because it's one of the few that offers port forwarding

                  servers are sometimes really slow but they have a decent number of them. their apps are kind of bad and they make it annoying to download multiple configs but it works ok overall

                  i haven't looked into their business practices much tho

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                  • avatastic@avatastic.ukA avatastic@avatastic.uk

                    @gildilinie AirVPN's website looking like something out of the late 90s is hella sus to me.

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                    #63

                    @avatastic someone vaguely remembered they tweeted transphobia but that's not enough for me bc it could be misremembering

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                    • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                      @avatastic someone vaguely remembered they tweeted transphobia but that's not enough for me bc it could be misremembering

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                      #64

                      @gildilinie I'm also drawing a parallel between something TIL, that hackaday (which looks a little dated and janky) is owned by Siemens (although a recent acquisition as I understand it).

                      Still a professional service looking like it's running phpBB ... the flags ain't green over here.

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                      • guillotine_jones@beige.partyG guillotine_jones@beige.party

                        @gildilinie
                        Just want to express my thanks to you again for doing all this research on VPNs, Gildlinie!

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                        #65

                        @Guillotine_Jones I do this kind of research on a lot of my purchases...

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                        • jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.netJ jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.net

                          @catraxx@tech.lgbt @gildilinie@beige.party i'm on airvpn now because it's one of the few that offers port forwarding

                          servers are sometimes really slow but they have a decent number of them. their apps are kind of bad and they make it annoying to download multiple configs but it works ok overall

                          i haven't looked into their business practices much tho

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                          #66

                          @jiub @gildilinie Ohhh, i see! Thank you!

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                          • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                            So which VPN are we switching to?

                            mullvad: fash
                            Mozilla: resells mullvad
                            nym: fash
                            ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                            Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                            ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                            proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                            surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                            purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                            tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                            obscura: partnered with mullvad

                            riseup: runs on donations
                            njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                            airvpn: ?
                            hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                            xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                            #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                            #67

                            @gildilinie Unfortunately looks like hide.me shill for crypto and NFT too.

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                            • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                              So which VPN are we switching to?

                              mullvad: fash
                              Mozilla: resells mullvad
                              nym: fash
                              ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                              Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                              ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                              proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                              surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                              purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                              tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                              obscura: partnered with mullvad

                              riseup: runs on donations
                              njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                              airvpn: ?
                              hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                              xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                              #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                              #68

                              @gildilinie I find this all disconcerting. I would trust Mullvad. I used to use there service and pay with cash and they always added the allotted time and then some.

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                              • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                So which VPN are we switching to?

                                mullvad: fash
                                Mozilla: resells mullvad
                                nym: fash
                                ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                                Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                                ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                                proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                                surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                                purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                                tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                                obscura: partnered with mullvad

                                riseup: runs on donations
                                njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                                airvpn: ?
                                hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                                xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                                #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                                #69

                                @gildilinie But, getting your own VPS and running your own wireguard or tailscale vpn may be more of what you are looking for.

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                                • gildilinie@beige.partyG gildilinie@beige.party

                                  So which VPN are we switching to?

                                  mullvad: fash
                                  Mozilla: resells mullvad
                                  nym: fash
                                  ExpressVPN/PIA: israeli military guys
                                  Windscribe: openly transphobic on Twitter (someone here linked it), also sent out a newsletter with homophobic rape jokes like just the other day
                                  ivpn: freeze peach https://mastodon.art/@jase/116830652868816205
                                  proton: turned over logs on someone, one of the c-suite donated to Trump
                                  surfshark/nordvpn: same company, owned by an SEO/marketing outfit
                                  purevpn: sketchy af floods play store with different vpn brands, security problem
                                  tortorguard.net: Cloudflare (the nazi proxi)
                                  obscura: partnered with mullvad

                                  riseup: runs on donations
                                  njalla: only one connection / no selection of exits / seems like a vps basically. Probably great if you want one fixed ip, won't work if you want to hop servers/regions
                                  airvpn: ?
                                  hide.me: ? did an NFT in 2022
                                  xeoveo: says trans rights, oppose facism

                                  #boost4reach #vpn #vpns

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                                  #70

                                  @gildilinie personally I use one on my router, one on my desktop and one in a vm plus tor if I am concerned about it.

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