Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
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Ditto:
'Why are you still on Bluesky too?'
'But did you *delete* your Twitter account?'
’You said you switched to Proton mail too, oh that’s bad, once someone at Proton said something’
It’s nice to see new neighbours move into the Fediverse. It feels unwelcoming to see people immediately interview them about the purity of their intentions. Or telling them You’re Doing It Wrong. They've just arrived on a journey away from Big Tech. Maybe they'd prefer to be offered a seat and a cup of tea.
@CiaraNi indeed this is not helpful. Especially if they do not ask for advice in that direction, like I cannot find people with my interest or from my region. And the answer should always be longer than hashtag, server.
On second thought maybe we should revive this Netiquette concept from the 1990s?
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That's the argument my OH uses... what's the fastest cake in the world: scone. (skon)
Half my family are from the midlands and upwards (UK) and it seems more folk there say "sc-oh-ne".
@grb090423 @CiaraNi @psneeze delightful.
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@CiaraNi Ah yes, when I finally joined Mastodon.Online after nuking my Twitter and much deliberation (and no knowledge of Fedi) chose it because it was a large instance (find lots of folks fast!), had a good policy/values statement, was run by the org, and seemed most likely to stick around and have dedicated resources for maintnenace and moderation.
Got my share of ugh, why that server did you know X thing about it, etc.
Why no, I didn't, I just fucking got here and know nothing of the inside
@Brett_E_Carlock @CiaraNi I had the same reply guys. I never had problems with that instance and the moderators work hard and well. And my posts and my work are the same, independent from where I send.
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi *person takes a fairly substantial leap into the unknown by joining a niche community*
Person in community: "why didn't you go *more* niche?!"
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@Primavera @CiaraNi @rgarner lol!
Once upon a time I used to work in a very fancy German delicatessen. They served loose tea and included a pretty little timer on the tray.
My English/British friends laughed an explained that you could easily tell of the steep was long enough by the stain on the rim of the cup ...
Same with my Japanese friends: they have vending machines selling cans of hot black tea with milk and sugar ("Royal milk tea") at every corner.
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi I’m on .social joined some time ago to figure what Fedi was about when I deleted my facebook. I have no complaints and quite like it. To be honest, been lazy to move to another instance and been meaning to search for another server for some time since there are so many cool servers out there
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@lykkebrammer Fedi.tips is brilliant! I'm glad you like .Social. I love the fact that we can all meet and chat in here, regardless which server we're one.
"I thought it moved everything when you move' - I daren't say with 100% certainty as I've never investigated it myself. But I think you can take your people with you, everyone you follow and who follows you, but not your actual post history.
@CiaraNi @lykkebrammer Exactly! I followed the procedure from Fedi.tips when I did my one and only move, years ago, and it worked just fine.
Everything transfers except your posts. Your followers, follows, bookmarks, lists, mutes, blocks and domain blocks will all come over.
I think it makes perfect sense to get a feel of the place, and the different instances, before considering a move (if you want to make one at all).
And welcome, @lykkebrammer! Glad to have you join us!
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@CiaraNi I hereby confess and repent the fact that I am just too lazy to add alt text in a consistent way to the many videos and plots I show of my research activity, because I still think it's a casual posting and i am not committing to build something consistently made for the public
@franco_vazza @CiaraNi well you can and should post what you want. it's not as though there isn't a surplus of militant well meaning alt text zealots eagerly waiting for new things to angrily describe to a broader audience. we can all support each other where we are at, this does not need to be a place where policing is prioritised over self-expression
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@annika To keep the answer simple - I think it is the only corner of the internet left that is worthwhile. It aligns with my values.
It helps that I am a life long nerd.@johnlorimer @annika same for me. And I too deleted.my twit account when.Musk took it over
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi I went to the app store. Installed Mastodon and created an account and this is where I ended up. I don’t think the vast majority of users know they can join a different instance. I didn’t even think about it, I just installed the app.
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@falcennial @CiaraNi I'll get the water started
@dnkboston @falcennial Kind of you, ta
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@CiaraNi I wish dot-social would just close registrations, they are two orders of magnitude too big already. Then we would not have this salad.
@mirabilos Whether they do or don't, I don't think people need to issue unsolicited instructions to people who've just joined Mastodon, telling them they are doing it wrong. It seems rude and unhelfpul, I think. And certainly unwelcoming.
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That's the argument my OH uses... what's the fastest cake in the world: scone. (skon)
Half my family are from the midlands and upwards (UK) and it seems more folk there say "sc-oh-ne".
@grb090423 @falcennial @CiaraNi @psneeze
It's scone as in cone
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@psneeze Yes it is! I can't believe there are people who walk this earth saying Skon Skon Skon.
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@CiaraNi It could have changed by now, since that was back in 2022. But I wouldn't put money on Musk prioritising making it more secure. Especially if it did anything to stop his minions actually stealing accounts, as he's threatened to do in the past when brands decided to stop using Twitter.
@beecycling I certainly wouldn't trust that man with anything or about anything. I fully deleted my account long ago, so I have nothing left to worry about there.
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi
I agree, it's not at all welcoming to greet people like this and smacks of self righteousness.
Loads of people join .social just because it's the first they come across. Folk can discover for themselves and move instance if they want to. The fact they're here on Mastodon should be welcomed. -
@CiaraNi I signed up on mastodon.social because it seemed the obvious choice, and because the explanations of servers and "instances" were invariably written from an unhelpful technical point of view with no explanation of why any of that had any impact on me, and because I could find no information about the support capabilities and average lifetimes of individual Mastodon servers.
@Corb_The_Lesser Those are fine reasons for joining the main (as I think of it) server - that makes sense. I think a lot of people have similar reasons and a similar experience when they move into the Fediverse.
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@CiaraNi Ha. The instance I first landed on, on arriving in the Fediverse, was so inclusive yet protective of its users it was a severe culture shock and left me reeling. I was left to find my feet and when I moved to less protective environments more to my taste I had the fullest Fediverse etiquette training you could get. I’m not naming them cos there’s lots of vulnerable people there that prefer to feel safe.
@stooryduster 'the fullest Fediverse etiquette training' - I can just imagine
