Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
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@monkeyben I had to look that up. I didn't know Devonshire had its own way of doing scones. I shall remember that next time I'm in Cornwall, which seems to be the rival for this.
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@mdreid Skwon! Well maybe if you're in the process of eating one, then with your mouth full that's what Scone sounds like
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi @PapyrusBrigade Agreed. When people are ready, they will move.
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Gen X Australian here, this thread and your post in particular resonated with me.
Arrived in Jan 2023 and encountered the "You're On The Big Bad Server" anti-welcome committee.
I get the arguments but it seemed to me there are better ways of mitigating than *checks notes* insulting new arrivals for choosing the default server.
It was enough to drive most fellow refugees to Bsky, but I dug my heels in instead.
️PS Am on Bsky too, but mostly here.
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@monkeyben I had to look that up. I didn't know Devonshire had its own way of doing scones. I shall remember that next time I'm in Cornwall, which seems to be the rival for this.
@CiaraNi @monkeyben @kcpoole @psneeze oh crikey yes, don’t get it the wrong way around 🫣
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@timpootle That entire sentence makes sense to me, which it probably shouldn't.
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Ditto:
'Why are you still on Bluesky too?'
'But did you *delete* your Twitter account?'
’You said you switched to Proton mail too, oh that’s bad, once someone at Proton said something’
It’s nice to see new neighbours move into the Fediverse. It feels unwelcoming to see people immediately interview them about the purity of their intentions. Or telling them You’re Doing It Wrong. They've just arrived on a journey away from Big Tech. Maybe they'd prefer to be offered a seat and a cup of tea.
The fact that the thread under this Serious Toot has ascended into a pleasant war about the correct way to pronounce Scone is why I love the Fediverse
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi I joined mastodon.social after Reddit decided that only their mobile app should be viable and alternatives must die. Afterwards explored Fediverse and made few other fedi accounts on different places (I like Misskey a lot but it's a hog for resources so Mastodon better for my phone while Misskey for fan art searching and boosting).
Later on saw discussion about how open registration services have provided good breeding ground for harassment and some were vile, sure they only gone for big people (aka who have big following) but that didn't sit with me right. So later decided to move to blorbo. I didn't know what blorbo means then (and still fuzzy) but I knew a good person from there so decided to move my account from mastodon.social . It was less painful than I expected while losing post history felt bad but think it was worth it overall. The good or bad is the loss of endless scrolling of (Trending) tab, mastodon.social you can scroll and scroll and scroll but it's not a thing on blorbo.social.I kinda agree with both sides about move and not move. It's easier to move while you don't have big post history and didn't get comfy, but finding good new place is really hard. Recommending someone else perfect fedi instance also a hard task. Having so many options means there also many different attitudes that they might've loved one option but they gone to mastodon.social and treat it as everywhere is the same.
So I mostly try to point out options without telling what you have to do, sometimes expanding someone horizon is enough but getting buried with terminology is also a thing. Honestly people should have several accounts and then stick with what they like, having spare account on big instance means less headache if your small instance closed up suddenly.
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi @BenGleason The people who do this should go start their own phpbb walled garden community of excellence, where they can go fuck off, away from the rest of us who don’t give a dimpled shit which instance you use.
The Mastodon HOA, who patrols looking for missing hashtags, alt-text and non-trunctaed YT links, can go fuck themselves in the face. Go back to moderating Reddit, blowhards.
So, there!
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The fact that the thread under this Serious Toot has ascended into a pleasant war about the correct way to pronounce Scone is why I love the Fediverse
@CiaraNi If you have time to debate how to pronounce Scone, I would argue you are not eating enough Scones.
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@CiaraNi @bleistifterin @rgarner
Tea made in the cup = milk in last
Tea poured from the pot = milk in first.@Sarahw @CiaraNi @bleistifterin @rgarner Drink coffee. You don't have to be fussy how you add the cream. It al mixes together.
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@johnlorimer @CiaraNi It's impossible to effectively moderate such a huge server, so you have this catch-22 where the server is a vector for spam and harassment, but can be seen as "too big to block" because such a large percentage of the network lives there.
Overall it's bad for the health of the Fediverse, so some block it regardless and advocate for folks moving off and the server closing registrations.
@annika @johnlorimer @CiaraNi End user should be moderating what they see. They shouldn’t have anyone telli g them what they can or can’t look at. Defats the entire purpose. Looks like spam? Block it. Racist motherfucker? Block it. It’s not hard… the tools are right there. Fuck the nanny shit. Let people do what they want, ignore those you don’t like. To enforce your will is tyranny, to accept is slavery.
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@Sarahw @CiaraNi @bleistifterin @rgarner Drink coffee. You don't have to be fussy how you add the cream. It al mixes together.
@wsrphoto @Sarahw @bleistifterin @rgarner Well that'd be one way of resolving the issue!
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@CiaraNi If you have time to debate how to pronounce Scone, I would argue you are not eating enough Scones.
@holsta Fair point. I have eaten no scones today. I should remedy this.
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Gen X Australian here, this thread and your post in particular resonated with me.
Arrived in Jan 2023 and encountered the "You're On The Big Bad Server" anti-welcome committee.
I get the arguments but it seemed to me there are better ways of mitigating than *checks notes* insulting new arrivals for choosing the default server.
It was enough to drive most fellow refugees to Bsky, but I dug my heels in instead.
️PS Am on Bsky too, but mostly here.
@imalcolm The 'anti-welcome committee' - that is what it feels like. They could just ignore and scroll by, but apparently feel the need to stand on the new neighbour's doorstep telling them to move. Am sorry you had that experience. Am glad you stayed.
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Ditto:
'Why are you still on Bluesky too?'
'But did you *delete* your Twitter account?'
’You said you switched to Proton mail too, oh that’s bad, once someone at Proton said something’
It’s nice to see new neighbours move into the Fediverse. It feels unwelcoming to see people immediately interview them about the purity of their intentions. Or telling them You’re Doing It Wrong. They've just arrived on a journey away from Big Tech. Maybe they'd prefer to be offered a seat and a cup of tea.
@CiaraNi
I left my first instance and considered leaving Mastodon behind entirely because I eventually grew tired of frequent admonitions from moderators about how to avoid offending perceived vulnerable minorities. It often felt like they would actually prefer you to wrap every post in a content warning, no matter how innocuous the subject.Of course, you shouldn’t be a jerk. But I also don’t want to feel like I have to weigh every word with extreme care just because it might offend someone.
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@schroedingerspossum
Haha that thought struck me too. It's a very Fediversey thread, in the best way. As is your excellent meme, which made me laugh aloud. -
@DavidBridger Well that explains it, that's where you have it from so. They just have to be different down there in Cork, they can't get over not being the capital
@CiaraNi The other half of my crowd are mainly from Glasgow which is the capital of Scotland, and Liverpool which is the capital of Liverpool. Everyone of them was and is socialist and right about things that matter. Like skons.
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@CiaraNi
I left my first instance and considered leaving Mastodon behind entirely because I eventually grew tired of frequent admonitions from moderators about how to avoid offending perceived vulnerable minorities. It often felt like they would actually prefer you to wrap every post in a content warning, no matter how innocuous the subject.Of course, you shouldn’t be a jerk. But I also don’t want to feel like I have to weigh every word with extreme care just because it might offend someone.
@mikill I agree with all of this, extremely so.
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@CiaraNi The other half of my crowd are mainly from Glasgow which is the capital of Scotland, and Liverpool which is the capital of Liverpool. Everyone of them was and is socialist and right about things that matter. Like skons.
@DavidBridger Haha, well this almost but not quite convinces me that Skon is a perfectly cromulent pronunciation.
