As a GP in Germany, I struggle with the claim that “people don’t want to work.”
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As a GP in Germany, I struggle with the claim that “people don’t want to work.” In daily practice, I see the opposite: many patients push themselves to keep working, even when they should rest. They worry about burdening colleagues, unfinished tasks, or upcoming deadlines.
If we want to understand rising sick leave, we need to look at real factors: increasing workload, constant pressure, lack of recovery time, social isolation, and overall exhaustion. Reducing this to a question of “motivation” ignores both evidence and lived experience.
In my experience, people who genuinely try to avoid work are a tiny minority. Framing the issue this way feels similar to old narratives about unemployment—oversimplified, misleading, and disconnected from reality.
#MedMastodon #GeneralPractice #PrimaryCare #WorkStress #MentalHealth #SickLeave #HealthPolicy #Germany #Arbeitswelt #Burnout #PublicHealth #Reform #AU #Arbeitsunfähigkeit #Gesundheitsreform #gesundheitspolitik #gesundheitssystem
Another factor in absences from work (or leaving the workforce completely)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0025775326001417
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@feisty_lemming @ABScientist thx for your input guys! Personally I don't see that too often and don't hear that often from colleagues. Can you recommend a landmark paper on this topic?
@hoppla @feisty_lemming @ABScientist
There's not only guys on the Internet just by the way.
All too many are underdiagnosed or misdiagnosed.
"Psychosomatic"
"Depression from social isolation 'during' Covid" (Covid is not over in fact), might well be social isolation as consequence of no energy after work because of (possibly undiagnosed or misdiagnosed) LC.
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@hoppla @feisty_lemming @ABScientist
There's not only guys on the Internet just by the way.
All too many are underdiagnosed or misdiagnosed.
"Psychosomatic"
"Depression from social isolation 'during' Covid" (Covid is not over in fact), might well be social isolation as consequence of no energy after work because of (possibly undiagnosed or misdiagnosed) LC.
@hoppla @feisty_lemming @ABScientist
And when they after a while can't work (fully) like this, even at the price of giving up the rest of the life, they suddenly fall officially sick, from said "depression from social isolation" or "burnout".
Just as possible way how you might come to see LongCovid sufferers but possibly not seeing them *as* LongCovid sufferers.
Unfortunately not so many gps even dare to diagnose LC even though they're IIRC technically allowed to.
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@hoppla @feisty_lemming @ABScientist
And when they after a while can't work (fully) like this, even at the price of giving up the rest of the life, they suddenly fall officially sick, from said "depression from social isolation" or "burnout".
Just as possible way how you might come to see LongCovid sufferers but possibly not seeing them *as* LongCovid sufferers.
Unfortunately not so many gps even dare to diagnose LC even though they're IIRC technically allowed to.
@hoppla @feisty_lemming @ABScientist
And who thinks about LC in the cases that might be just a bit less severe than the very stereotypical ones (but severe enough to cause issues)...
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@hoppla @feisty_lemming @ABScientist
And who thinks about LC in the cases that might be just a bit less severe than the very stereotypical ones (but severe enough to cause issues)...
@hoppla @feisty_lemming @ABScientist
LC is very not rare (link I sent, and others sent info too).
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Another factor in absences from work (or leaving the workforce completely)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0025775326001417
And where less social contact really has health impacts (causality this way round instead of "I'm chronically ill and experiencing the typical let down that most chronically ill people experience"), make social contact safer again.
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As a GP in Germany, I struggle with the claim that “people don’t want to work.” In daily practice, I see the opposite: many patients push themselves to keep working, even when they should rest. They worry about burdening colleagues, unfinished tasks, or upcoming deadlines.
If we want to understand rising sick leave, we need to look at real factors: increasing workload, constant pressure, lack of recovery time, social isolation, and overall exhaustion. Reducing this to a question of “motivation” ignores both evidence and lived experience.
In my experience, people who genuinely try to avoid work are a tiny minority. Framing the issue this way feels similar to old narratives about unemployment—oversimplified, misleading, and disconnected from reality.
#MedMastodon #GeneralPractice #PrimaryCare #WorkStress #MentalHealth #SickLeave #HealthPolicy #Germany #Arbeitswelt #Burnout #PublicHealth #Reform #AU #Arbeitsunfähigkeit #Gesundheitsreform #gesundheitspolitik #gesundheitssystem
@hoppla People should more often avoid work and go on strike. They make all the profits, but the corporate king takes several million from it, while the employees are still cheated out of their minimum wages.
So join a union!
https://jacobin.com/2023/10/uaw-strike-big-three-historic-wins-worker-power-tentative-agreements
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@hoppla I’d include workplace bullying as a factor
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You probably know this, but I am going to say it anyway:
"people don't want to work" is not worth struggling over.
It is an obvious piece of fascist propaganda.
A far-right myth of an undeserving people "mooching off our poor hard-working job-creators".
What a joke. It's so clumsy and obvious.
Throw it down and step on it.
If peopel are getting sick more: It's covid. It's car exhausts. It's hateful middle-aged men with power. All of that is enough to make a person sick.
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@zash I can't applaud loud enough for this view. In a world shifted by AI we need a radical new understanding about what we want to call work. As far as I comphrend social sciences is working on it for decades already.
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As a GP in Germany, I struggle with the claim that “people don’t want to work.” In daily practice, I see the opposite: many patients push themselves to keep working, even when they should rest. They worry about burdening colleagues, unfinished tasks, or upcoming deadlines.
If we want to understand rising sick leave, we need to look at real factors: increasing workload, constant pressure, lack of recovery time, social isolation, and overall exhaustion. Reducing this to a question of “motivation” ignores both evidence and lived experience.
In my experience, people who genuinely try to avoid work are a tiny minority. Framing the issue this way feels similar to old narratives about unemployment—oversimplified, misleading, and disconnected from reality.
#MedMastodon #GeneralPractice #PrimaryCare #WorkStress #MentalHealth #SickLeave #HealthPolicy #Germany #Arbeitswelt #Burnout #PublicHealth #Reform #AU #Arbeitsunfähigkeit #Gesundheitsreform #gesundheitspolitik #gesundheitssystem
@hoppla Not to mention how happy you will be if everybody who just stayed home for a day when they ate something wrong now comes in to your office for a sick note instead. which of course will be longer than one or two days.
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@hoppla @feisty_lemming @ABScientist
LC is very not rare (link I sent, and others sent info too).
@hoppla @project1enigma @ABScientist @feisty_lemming here in Ireland, I’m seeing that people want any diagnosis except Long Covid, there’s a strong stigma attached to it
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As a GP in Germany, I struggle with the claim that “people don’t want to work.” In daily practice, I see the opposite: many patients push themselves to keep working, even when they should rest. They worry about burdening colleagues, unfinished tasks, or upcoming deadlines.
If we want to understand rising sick leave, we need to look at real factors: increasing workload, constant pressure, lack of recovery time, social isolation, and overall exhaustion. Reducing this to a question of “motivation” ignores both evidence and lived experience.
In my experience, people who genuinely try to avoid work are a tiny minority. Framing the issue this way feels similar to old narratives about unemployment—oversimplified, misleading, and disconnected from reality.
#MedMastodon #GeneralPractice #PrimaryCare #WorkStress #MentalHealth #SickLeave #HealthPolicy #Germany #Arbeitswelt #Burnout #PublicHealth #Reform #AU #Arbeitsunfähigkeit #Gesundheitsreform #gesundheitspolitik #gesundheitssystem
@hoppla it’s the same in the United States.
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As a GP in Germany, I struggle with the claim that “people don’t want to work.” In daily practice, I see the opposite: many patients push themselves to keep working, even when they should rest. They worry about burdening colleagues, unfinished tasks, or upcoming deadlines.
If we want to understand rising sick leave, we need to look at real factors: increasing workload, constant pressure, lack of recovery time, social isolation, and overall exhaustion. Reducing this to a question of “motivation” ignores both evidence and lived experience.
In my experience, people who genuinely try to avoid work are a tiny minority. Framing the issue this way feels similar to old narratives about unemployment—oversimplified, misleading, and disconnected from reality.
#MedMastodon #GeneralPractice #PrimaryCare #WorkStress #MentalHealth #SickLeave #HealthPolicy #Germany #Arbeitswelt #Burnout #PublicHealth #Reform #AU #Arbeitsunfähigkeit #Gesundheitsreform #gesundheitspolitik #gesundheitssystem
@hoppla
I stopped working in march because of long COVID. I probably would've stopped earlier but was lucky to have a 9h per week job and needed the money. The difficulty is when quitting work helps you improve, people think you are fine and can work. -
You probably know this, but I am going to say it anyway:
"people don't want to work" is not worth struggling over.
It is an obvious piece of fascist propaganda.
A far-right myth of an undeserving people "mooching off our poor hard-working job-creators".
What a joke. It's so clumsy and obvious.
Throw it down and step on it.
If peopel are getting sick more: It's covid. It's car exhausts. It's hateful middle-aged men with power. All of that is enough to make a person sick.
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As a GP in Germany, I struggle with the claim that “people don’t want to work.” In daily practice, I see the opposite: many patients push themselves to keep working, even when they should rest. They worry about burdening colleagues, unfinished tasks, or upcoming deadlines.
If we want to understand rising sick leave, we need to look at real factors: increasing workload, constant pressure, lack of recovery time, social isolation, and overall exhaustion. Reducing this to a question of “motivation” ignores both evidence and lived experience.
In my experience, people who genuinely try to avoid work are a tiny minority. Framing the issue this way feels similar to old narratives about unemployment—oversimplified, misleading, and disconnected from reality.
#MedMastodon #GeneralPractice #PrimaryCare #WorkStress #MentalHealth #SickLeave #HealthPolicy #Germany #Arbeitswelt #Burnout #PublicHealth #Reform #AU #Arbeitsunfähigkeit #Gesundheitsreform #gesundheitspolitik #gesundheitssystem
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As a GP in Germany, I struggle with the claim that “people don’t want to work.” In daily practice, I see the opposite: many patients push themselves to keep working, even when they should rest. They worry about burdening colleagues, unfinished tasks, or upcoming deadlines.
If we want to understand rising sick leave, we need to look at real factors: increasing workload, constant pressure, lack of recovery time, social isolation, and overall exhaustion. Reducing this to a question of “motivation” ignores both evidence and lived experience.
In my experience, people who genuinely try to avoid work are a tiny minority. Framing the issue this way feels similar to old narratives about unemployment—oversimplified, misleading, and disconnected from reality.
#MedMastodon #GeneralPractice #PrimaryCare #WorkStress #MentalHealth #SickLeave #HealthPolicy #Germany #Arbeitswelt #Burnout #PublicHealth #Reform #AU #Arbeitsunfähigkeit #Gesundheitsreform #gesundheitspolitik #gesundheitssystem
@hoppla another thing that Merz and co. don't realise is that if I call my doc from home where I have made myself feel comfortable and the doc asks "shall I write you a note for the rest of the week" I am more likely to say "I'm sure I'll feel fine in a day or so" whereas if I have dragged myself to their office and am feeling really rough I am 100% going to answer "God, please do!" to the same question.
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@hoppla Either the politicians who say these things have no idea what life is like for less privileged people... Or...
There's something my history teacher said: "They didn't say these things because they believed they were true, but because they had to be true to justify their plans." -
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@HollieK72 we're actually taking more sick leave since 2020. Did anything happen in 2020 to make us less healthy? It's a mystery @Anke @hoppla
