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  • tslst@mastodon.socialT tslst@mastodon.social

    @cR0w I read this as: rather than figure out a positive use of this tool, you would rather prevent anyone from using it? What' your policy on kitchen knives and cars?

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    #106

    @TSLST Kitchen knives and cars were created for a specific benefit. AI is a grift trying hard to find a benefit beyond further enriching the rich. The fact that it's being pushed so hard while people "figure out a positive use of this tool" should be the tell.

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    • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

      "AI is giving attackers a huge advantage!"

      "Yes, it is. It's amazing how quickly it has destroyed dev, sec, ops, management, company missions and priorities, regulations, information literacy, and civil society, making everyone more vulnerable."

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      #107
      Junior Dev: I gotta deliver this database app tomorrow, can you code it for me?

      Claude: Sure!

      Hacker: This shitty database thingy looks vibe coded, can you find an exploit in it?

      Claude: Find? I already know one!
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      • mustardfacial@infosec.exchangeM mustardfacial@infosec.exchange

        @rootwyrm @cR0w @jackryder God dammit. This is the worst fucking timeline.

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        sjcooke66@mastodon.social
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        #108

        @Mustardfacial @rootwyrm @cR0w @jackryder The Matrix timeline anybody? Better?..

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        • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

          @lycanoid I wish I could tell if you were being genuine or sarcastic, but this is the Internet so... help me out please. 😆

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          #109

          @cR0w of course they care about children. A good part of the world’s “elite” had (and probably still has) parties on private islands with children attending.

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          • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

            @cR0w I got this great idea, right?
            So you know the game darts? You throw a sharp pointy metal spike at a wall... right?

            What if... get this... instead of a tiny little bitch spike, we go full 9inches? Have kids throw them just straight in the air... see what happens.

            What'cha think?

            thegreatllama@kolektiva.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #110

            @jackryder @cR0w
            I will not hear lawn darts besmirched. Best game ever.

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            • lycanoid@ieji.deL lycanoid@ieji.de

              @cR0w of course they care about children. A good part of the world’s “elite” had (and probably still has) parties on private islands with children attending.

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              #111

              @lycanoid Ugh. I hate rich people so much.

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              • thegreatllama@kolektiva.socialT thegreatllama@kolektiva.social

                @jackryder @cR0w
                I will not hear lawn darts besmirched. Best game ever.

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                #112

                @TheGreatLlama
                Wait... wait wait.

                Lawn darts are better than...naked charades?

                @cR0w

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                • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

                  @TheGreatLlama
                  Wait... wait wait.

                  Lawn darts are better than...naked charades?

                  @cR0w

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                  #113

                  @jackryder @TheGreatLlama Naked lawn darts.

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                  • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

                    @cR0w Well hell yeah! What else are we gonna do at the lake? Too rowdy with the bonfire and beer keg to really fish anyway!

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                    #114

                    @jackryder @cR0w
                    You've heard the expression, "close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades," right? Well, have I got a great new game for you!

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                    • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                      @jackryder @TheGreatLlama Naked lawn darts.

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                      #115

                      @cR0w
                      Depending on the thrower, that could make things really tricky.

                      Like... imagine if you were playing with, or against someone with a piercing?

                      @TheGreatLlama

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                      • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

                        @cR0w
                        Depending on the thrower, that could make things really tricky.

                        Like... imagine if you were playing with, or against someone with a piercing?

                        @TheGreatLlama

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                        #116

                        @jackryder @TheGreatLlama Sucks to suck.

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                          @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull i keep getting the impression that nuclei is just nmap nse with extra steps

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                          #117

                          @Viss @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull I shudder to think what it's like now but in the beginning people did add defanged exploits or proper detections not just grabbing the banner. But build it and they will come and now I suppose the kudos miners can times AI their bullshit. It's a shame because projectdiscovery have made some good stuff. Actually AI might be better because at least it will read the researcher's report and be able to extract the key signatures.

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                          • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

                            @cR0w
                            Depending on the thrower, that could make things really tricky.

                            Like... imagine if you were playing with, or against someone with a piercing?

                            @TheGreatLlama

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                            #118

                            @jackryder @cR0w @TheGreatLlama

                            *magnetic* lawn darts

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                            • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                              "AI is giving attackers a huge advantage!"

                              "Yes, it is. It's amazing how quickly it has destroyed dev, sec, ops, management, company missions and priorities, regulations, information literacy, and civil society, making everyone more vulnerable."

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                              #119

                              @cR0w I blame Devo...

                              D - E - V - O

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                              • nf3xn@mastodon.socialN nf3xn@mastodon.social

                                @Viss @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull I shudder to think what it's like now but in the beginning people did add defanged exploits or proper detections not just grabbing the banner. But build it and they will come and now I suppose the kudos miners can times AI their bullshit. It's a shame because projectdiscovery have made some good stuff. Actually AI might be better because at least it will read the researcher's report and be able to extract the key signatures.

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                                #120

                                @nf3xn @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull the whole zerg-rush of bounty hunters invited all the riffraff. all the people who barely knew enough about computers but put mr. robot on in the background on repeat 24/7 were desperate to be leet haxors and brag to their friends that they were leet haxors. then the various scam artists wired it all up to produce scary-sounding but complete bullshit reports to knee-jerk people out of an extortion-flavored bounty, and dev has gone that direction

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                  @nf3xn @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull the whole zerg-rush of bounty hunters invited all the riffraff. all the people who barely knew enough about computers but put mr. robot on in the background on repeat 24/7 were desperate to be leet haxors and brag to their friends that they were leet haxors. then the various scam artists wired it all up to produce scary-sounding but complete bullshit reports to knee-jerk people out of an extortion-flavored bounty, and dev has gone that direction

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                                  #121

                                  @nf3xn @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull so it feels like scary goth spaghetti is being thrown at the wall and it its just gonna get worse

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                                  • iagox86@infosec.exchangeI iagox86@infosec.exchange

                                    @cR0w @darthnull Then labs/research makes their own blog, then that ALSO gets filled with AI slop because more quantity = better right?

                                    I'm gonna start embedding one of those "email me for a $100 gift card" into every slop post to prove that nobody reads them

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                                    #122

                                    @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull I’m working really hard to sell “the value of my team is that you’re getting feedback from a real human expert” when we talk to brokers.

                                    Because that absolutely is a differentiator in my business.

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                                    • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                      @lycanoid Ugh. I hate rich people so much.

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                                      #123

                                      @cR0w These people are not rich. They are ultra rich, multi-billionaires. They can literally buy a small to medium sized country. What purpose does this serve?? Musk’s “worth” is somewhere in the 800 billions. What is this…? And what is the difference in your life’s benefits if you have 1 billion or 800 billions? I guess if you are a multi-billionaire you can have a 150+ meter super-yacht. Nothing else. But it is the power, the raw power and influence your 200-300 or 800 billions have. IMHO multi-billionaires are mostly evil people. All this power has led them to the dark side (as the Star Wars saga so eloquently describes).

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                                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                        @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia samesies, except nobody knows where the fuck i am and they never find me, and i spend my days cruising around the forest with a gnarly macro insect camera setup taking pictures of bugs and doing light maintenance on my zero carbon natural gas, water, solar/wind and sodium battery setups

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                                        #124

                                        @Viss @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia
                                        You're the bug camera guy?!

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                                        • fritzadalis@infosec.exchangeF fritzadalis@infosec.exchange

                                          @Viss @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia
                                          You're the bug camera guy?!

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                                          #125

                                          @FritzAdalis @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia i was investigating making one of those gnarly diffuser rigs for shooting jumpy spiders, before i control-z'ed on the whole cameraguy motif. still kinda kicking myself for having sold my macro lens

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