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  • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

    @cR0w I got this great idea, right?
    So you know the game darts? You throw a sharp pointy metal spike at a wall... right?

    What if... get this... instead of a tiny little bitch spike, we go full 9inches? Have kids throw them just straight in the air... see what happens.

    What'cha think?

    jimijamflimflam@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #59

    I used to play with those as a kid. We called them jarts (or lawn darts). They disappeared for some reason. 🤔

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawn_darts

    @jackryder @cR0w

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    • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

      "AI is giving attackers a huge advantage!"

      "Yes, it is. It's amazing how quickly it has destroyed dev, sec, ops, management, company missions and priorities, regulations, information literacy, and civil society, making everyone more vulnerable."

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      #60

      @cR0w That was the point.

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      • futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF futuristicrobert@infosec.exchange

        @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss and then the only people benefiting from your services are the people who can afford it.

        EDIT: When I say "security vendor" I mean "SeCuRiTy VeNdOR!!!!!!!11111!!!!!"

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        #61

        @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @krypt3ia i am a security vendor and i am vehemently against ambulance chasing

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        • iagox86@infosec.exchangeI iagox86@infosec.exchange

          @cR0w Also trust! I remember when certain small companies used to set themselves apart and build a lot of goodwill by having humans create things for the community.. now it's all slop all the time coming from their social accounts

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          #62

          @iagox86 There are so many executives who don't see the exodus in front of them right now. Unfortunately it'll be too late when they do.

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          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

            @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @krypt3ia i am a security vendor and i am vehemently against ambulance chasing

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            #63

            @Viss @cR0w @krypt3ia there are always exceptions. Case in point. 🙂

            I'm casting a broad net.

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            • jimijamflimflam@mstdn.socialJ jimijamflimflam@mstdn.social

              I used to play with those as a kid. We called them jarts (or lawn darts). They disappeared for some reason. 🤔

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawn_darts

              @jackryder @cR0w

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              #64

              @Jimijamflimflam @jackryder No fun allowed.

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              • jimijamflimflam@mstdn.socialJ jimijamflimflam@mstdn.social

                I used to play with those as a kid. We called them jarts (or lawn darts). They disappeared for some reason. 🤔

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawn_darts

                @jackryder @cR0w

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                #65

                @Jimijamflimflam
                We had some when I was younger. Bright colored plastic death sticks were the best!

                @cR0w

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                • futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF futuristicrobert@infosec.exchange

                  @Viss @cR0w @krypt3ia there are always exceptions. Case in point. 🙂

                  I'm casting a broad net.

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                  #66

                  @FuturisticRobert @Viss @cR0w The real problem is that at the rate of conglomeration (like an ourboros) of security companies, being a rogue small outfit kinda puts you on the back heel and almost having to ambulance chase.

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                  • futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF futuristicrobert@infosec.exchange

                    @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss

                    THIS!!!

                    Security isn't profitable. Line doesn't go up unless you're an ambulance cha.... I mean "security vendor."

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                    #67

                    @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss <compliance hat on>
                    The reason security isn't 'profitable' is because the penalty for leaking the PII including SSNs of 147 million people is less than one half of one quarter's profit.

                    And if it doesn't make headlines and you had all the required disclosures in place, it's $0.

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                    • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                      @drwho Sure. Go nuts. 🙂

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                      #68

                      @cR0w Thank you very much.

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                      • rootwyrm@weird.autosR rootwyrm@weird.autos

                        @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss <compliance hat on>
                        The reason security isn't 'profitable' is because the penalty for leaking the PII including SSNs of 147 million people is less than one half of one quarter's profit.

                        And if it doesn't make headlines and you had all the required disclosures in place, it's $0.

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                        #69

                        @rootwyrm @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @Viss Losing data is all the rage now.

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                        • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

                          @FuturisticRobert @Viss @cR0w The real problem is that at the rate of conglomeration (like an ourboros) of security companies, being a rogue small outfit kinda puts you on the back heel and almost having to ambulance chase.

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                          #70

                          @krypt3ia @Viss @cR0w

                          And when all the big conglomo's own the security companies, each will offer up in-depth reports on the glaring vulnerabilities of the other guys while saying nothing when they themselves have a zero day. Looking at #google, #microsoft (#microslop), et al.

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                          • futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF futuristicrobert@infosec.exchange

                            @krypt3ia @Viss @cR0w

                            And when all the big conglomo's own the security companies, each will offer up in-depth reports on the glaring vulnerabilities of the other guys while saying nothing when they themselves have a zero day. Looking at #google, #microsoft (#microslop), et al.

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                            #71

                            @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia @Viss You mean like Fortinet has done for the past however many years?

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                            • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

                              @rootwyrm @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @Viss Losing data is all the rage now.

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                              #72

                              @krypt3ia @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @Viss well of course, it's basically free PR. Not like you're going to be fined. Company just taps the one-off legal cost of writing up the sign and their 'legal obligations have been met.

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                              • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia @Viss You mean like Fortinet has done for the past however many years?

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                                #73

                                @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @Viss There is only one answer, leave the cybers, go off grid, make your own food, and herd sheep.

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                                • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

                                  @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @Viss There is only one answer, leave the cybers, go off grid, make your own food, and herd sheep.

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                                  #74

                                  @krypt3ia @FuturisticRobert @Viss I'M TRYING

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                                  • rootwyrm@weird.autosR rootwyrm@weird.autos

                                    @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss <compliance hat on>
                                    The reason security isn't 'profitable' is because the penalty for leaking the PII including SSNs of 147 million people is less than one half of one quarter's profit.

                                    And if it doesn't make headlines and you had all the required disclosures in place, it's $0.

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                                    #75

                                    @rootwyrm @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss

                                    louder for the people in the back. 🙂

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                                    • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                      "AI is giving attackers a huge advantage!"

                                      "Yes, it is. It's amazing how quickly it has destroyed dev, sec, ops, management, company missions and priorities, regulations, information literacy, and civil society, making everyone more vulnerable."

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                                      #76

                                      @cR0w it's a virus.

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                                      • mustardfacial@infosec.exchangeM mustardfacial@infosec.exchange

                                        @cR0w @jackryder Asbestos in brake pads and lead in paint did improve the product though. If they weren't so horriffic to human health, we would still be using them. Conversely, I've yet to see an instance where AI has actually improved anything. At best it lets people who are mediocre at their jobs output a higher quantity of mediocre work.

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                                        #77

                                        @Mustardfacial @cR0w @jackryder

                                        That's the general idea, yes.

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                                        • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                          @krypt3ia @FuturisticRobert @Viss I'M TRYING

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                                          #78

                                          @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss in my fantasy world I'm retired living in a cabin somewhere, when one day someone from my past interrupts me while I'm out chopping wood saying "we need you back. Something's happened."

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