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  3. Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word.

Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word.

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  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

    @mcc @whitequark all my datums, gone

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    #34

    @gsuberland @mcc @whitequark
    Time to bring out my absolute favourite linguistics discussion of all time again

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    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

      Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

      Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

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      #35

      @mcc
      German does that all the time, but I don't know of any specific term for this.

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      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

        This name is unacceptably long, and therefore I propose we shorten it to "SylAb"

        https://timetheft.social/@candle/116806050445622751

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        #36

        @mcc you may also consider it a kind of clipped compound, or ClipCom

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        • slowtiger@berlin.socialS slowtiger@berlin.social

          @mcc
          German does that all the time, but I don't know of any specific term for this.

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          #37

          @slowtiger @mcc I’m having trouble imagining words so long that German needs to shorten them

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          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

            @whitequark @syn If wikitionary had actually spelled it "acromym" I would have proposed making it the new official name for the concept

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            #38

            @mcc @whitequark @syn Nazi and Stasi are whatever this is, too. Spotting a pattern...

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              @slowtiger @mcc I’m having trouble imagining words so long that German needs to shorten them

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              #39

              @ShadSterling @mcc
              We do that for daily use: "Landesamt für Gesundheit und Soziales Berlin" becomes "Lageso".

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              • http_error_418@hachyderm.ioH http_error_418@hachyderm.io

                @gsuberland @mcc @whitequark
                Time to bring out my absolute favourite linguistics discussion of all time again

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                #40

                @http_error_418 @gsuberland @mcc @whitequark The rhyming couplet at the end! *le baiser d'un chef*

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                • http_error_418@hachyderm.ioH http_error_418@hachyderm.io

                  @gsuberland @mcc @whitequark
                  Time to bring out my absolute favourite linguistics discussion of all time again

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                  #41

                  @http_error_418 @gsuberland @mcc @whitequark

                  the last one is even kinda readable once you know to read that strange "o" as "the".

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                  • http_error_418@hachyderm.ioH http_error_418@hachyderm.io

                    @gsuberland @mcc @whitequark
                    Time to bring out my absolute favourite linguistics discussion of all time again

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                    #42

                    @http_error_418 😂😂

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                    • http_error_418@hachyderm.ioH http_error_418@hachyderm.io

                      @gsuberland @mcc @whitequark
                      Time to bring out my absolute favourite linguistics discussion of all time again

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                      #43

                      @http_error_418 @gsuberland @mcc @whitequark @david_chisnall I never thought I would see “Dog Anglo-Saxon” lol

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                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                        Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

                        Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

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                        #44

                        @mcc I'd just think of it as a portmanteau

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                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                          Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

                          Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

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                          #45

                          @mcc japanese likes to take *two* ~syllables from each word, like pasocon for personal computer

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                          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                            Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

                            Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

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                            #46

                            @mcc Mandarin also does this, but with the first character (e.g. 高速铁路, "high speed railway", becomes 高铁, "high iron"). I would probably call them abbreviations, but that's somewhat generic

                            legal german does it similarly, but they just use enough characters to distinguish conflicting terms, it can get annoying

                            e.g. BVerfG for Bundesverfassungsgericht and BVerwG for Bundesverwaltungsgericht, two different courts

                            or SGB for Socialgesetzbuch and StGB for Strafgesetzbuch, two different laws

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                            • http_error_418@hachyderm.ioH http_error_418@hachyderm.io

                              @gsuberland @mcc @whitequark
                              Time to bring out my absolute favourite linguistics discussion of all time again

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                              #47

                              @http_error_418 @gsuberland @mcc @whitequark
                              I love it. Also managed to find the original tumblr thread:
                              https://kingfucko.tumblr.com/post/131682181176/gollyplot-flittering-sylph-man-i-hate-it

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                              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

                                Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

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                                @mcc I feel there's something similar in Mandarin that's existed longer than what I care to pay attention to, but it also felt just slightly different enough that idk if it's what you have in mind

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                                • swetland@chaos.socialS swetland@chaos.social

                                  @http_error_418 @gsuberland @mcc @whitequark
                                  I love it. Also managed to find the original tumblr thread:
                                  https://kingfucko.tumblr.com/post/131682181176/gollyplot-flittering-sylph-man-i-hate-it

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                                  Let me say that one of the things I most dislike in Tumblr (in addition to not being able to limit search of tags simply to your own blog) is the lack of automatic time stamps.

                                  @swetland @http_error_418 @gsuberland @mcc @whitequark

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