Hard agree.
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@mapcar @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram As someone who never user Xitter, I found Mastodon quite easy to adopt.
The problem is abandoning learned usage.
Most people who complain about Linux are complaining because it isn't Windows.
My first experience of computing was a Commodore Pet, followed by a Spectrum and then an Amiga. By the time I got to use Windows 3.11 in 1994, I had used several OSes, so later on, moving to Linux wasn't a shock.@wyliecoyoteuk @mapcar @Ruth_Mottram
Sound quite right. My uptake of Mastodon was predicated on my understanding of Twitter, but I left a large entourage behind and my personal feed on twitter was lively and satisfying. I KNEW how to tweet. Turns out I didn't really know how to toot. Now I do, somehow, but I'm not quite sure what I picked up in the process. I simply did.
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@toxy This too is true.
@SuneAuken Cold comfort I know but if you’re attracting that many keyboard warriors, especially on Mastodon, you’re doing something right.
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@SuneAuken Cold comfort I know but if you’re attracting that many keyboard warriors, especially on Mastodon, you’re doing something right.
I'm not attracting them. I'm just a pre-emptive blocker. See a troll (in whichever feed) block a troll. It's semi-automatic with me.
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@wyliecoyoteuk @mapcar @Ruth_Mottram
Sound quite right. My uptake of Mastodon was predicated on my understanding of Twitter, but I left a large entourage behind and my personal feed on twitter was lively and satisfying. I KNEW how to tweet. Turns out I didn't really know how to toot. Now I do, somehow, but I'm not quite sure what I picked up in the process. I simply did.
@SuneAuken @mapcar @Ruth_Mottram Of course losing all of your followers is also a drag, along with not knowing how to replicate that experience in a new environment.
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I'm not attracting them. I'm just a pre-emptive blocker. See a troll (in whichever feed) block a troll. It's semi-automatic with me.
@SuneAuken Ah! A new hobby which I can adopt.
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@SuneAuken Ah! A new hobby which I can adopt.
@toxy Highly recommended. Feels like a very small, albeit clearly benign, superpower.
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I'm not attracting them. I'm just a pre-emptive blocker. See a troll (in whichever feed) block a troll. It's semi-automatic with me.
@SuneAuken @toxy I am the same. If you’re being obnoxious anywhere I can see you, or, frankly, even just if I find your interests irritating, block, block, block away.
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@SuneAuken @toxy I am the same. If you’re being obnoxious anywhere I can see you, or, frankly, even just if I find your interests irritating, block, block, block away.
This. And then this again.
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@mapcar @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram As someone who never user Xitter, I found Mastodon quite easy to adopt.
The problem is abandoning learned usage.
Most people who complain about Linux are complaining because it isn't Windows.
My first experience of computing was a Commodore Pet, followed by a Spectrum and then an Amiga. By the time I got to use Windows 3.11 in 1994, I had used several OSes, so later on, moving to Linux wasn't a shock.@wyliecoyoteuk @mapcar @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram I am not a techie in any sense. I had an account on Xitter for 10 years at least, but never used it, because it was easy to join but hard to use. Xitter was confusing and full of assholes.
By contrast, I found Mastodon very easy to join and understand.
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RE: https://vebinet.com/@dawid/115980586541269075
Hard agree. Many find that Mastodon requires a steep learning curve and coming over from the Dead Bird Site some years ago it took me a long time to find my way on Mastodon - not because of the tech involved but because tech and discursive practices go hand in hand. And discursive practices are hard hard hard to change.
So if you've moved here, and made a digtial home here: Welcome. Your efforts are hugely appreciated.
@SuneAuken Even x.com (formerly Twitter) is a (real!) free speech platform now, thanks to Elon Musk. I would have never thought that I would ever write something like this...
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RE: https://vebinet.com/@dawid/115980586541269075
Hard agree. Many find that Mastodon requires a steep learning curve and coming over from the Dead Bird Site some years ago it took me a long time to find my way on Mastodon - not because of the tech involved but because tech and discursive practices go hand in hand. And discursive practices are hard hard hard to change.
So if you've moved here, and made a digtial home here: Welcome. Your efforts are hugely appreciated.
@SuneAuken I am baffled by the claim there is "a steep learning curve" for those used to Elon's folly. I fall farther behind in tech savvy every year but had no difficulty learning how to use Mastodon. If you're a wannabe influencer, you might struggle, because here you have to provide value, not just game the system.
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T tanyakaroli@expressional.social shared this topic
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Beyond that, the worst discursive practices I see here are sealioning, 'splaining, and toxic idealism.
But you know what? Coming from the omnishambles of hatred and disinformation on Twitter - even before the Muskification of the site - it remains a much much better SoMe home for someone like me.
I was always a cheerleader rather than a fighter. And there's so much here that's easy to cheer.
@SuneAuken Agree with all of everything in this thread.
But what is “sealioning?” That’s a new term for me
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@SuneAuken @mapcar @Ruth_Mottram Of course losing all of your followers is also a drag, along with not knowing how to replicate that experience in a new environment.
@wyliecoyoteuk @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram I would like to mention that I have heard several accounts of people who moved from Twitter to mastodon whose follow count went down considerably but their engagement none the less went up.
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@SuneAuken Agree with all of everything in this thread.
But what is “sealioning?” That’s a new term for me
@RyanHyde It IS a strange term. Wikipedia covers it nicely.
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@RyanHyde It IS a strange term. Wikipedia covers it nicely.
So I was not attempting to engage in sealioning by asking that question, not even sarcastically, but the irony is pretty obvious.
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So I was not attempting to engage in sealioning by asking that question, not even sarcastically, but the irony is pretty obvious.
@RyanHyde Ha yes. You’re right.
Albeit, I was fairly sure you were just asking A question, not “Just Asking Questions”.
No sealions in sight.
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@wyliecoyoteuk @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram I would like to mention that I have heard several accounts of people who moved from Twitter to mastodon whose follow count went down considerably but their engagement none the less went up.
@mapcar @wyliecoyoteuk @Ruth_Mottram
This is true, I have seen it too.
But it was very much not my experience. My account has only fully "woken up" (sorry for the metaphor) recently.
Not Mastodon's fault, obviously, but my experience regardless.
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@SuneAuken I am baffled by the claim there is "a steep learning curve" for those used to Elon's folly. I fall farther behind in tech savvy every year but had no difficulty learning how to use Mastodon. If you're a wannabe influencer, you might struggle, because here you have to provide value, not just game the system.
@Axomamma. Interestingly, i am baffled by it too, except I had it.
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RE: https://vebinet.com/@dawid/115980586541269075
Hard agree. Many find that Mastodon requires a steep learning curve and coming over from the Dead Bird Site some years ago it took me a long time to find my way on Mastodon - not because of the tech involved but because tech and discursive practices go hand in hand. And discursive practices are hard hard hard to change.
So if you've moved here, and made a digtial home here: Welcome. Your efforts are hugely appreciated.
@SuneAuken Was I also a hero when I left birdsite (I was on the fediverse for over 10 years by then already) in something like 2020 because of woke censorship and covid resistance censorship (which overlap)? -
@wyliecoyoteuk @mapcar @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram I am not a techie in any sense. I had an account on Xitter for 10 years at least, but never used it, because it was easy to join but hard to use. Xitter was confusing and full of assholes.
By contrast, I found Mastodon very easy to join and understand.
@steggy @wyliecoyoteuk @mapcar @Ruth_Mottram
Which goes to show that my difficulties probably were a question of habit. Discursively, Mastodon isn't in any way harder than Twitter. But it may be harder if you've gotten used to the discourse on Twitter.
