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Are there any distros other than NetBSD and Gentoo that have explicitly banned AI-assisted contributions?

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  • babe@duck.rodeoB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Are there any distros other than NetBSD and Gentoo that have explicitly banned AI-assisted contributions?

    smathermather@mapstodon.spaceS trezzer@social.linux.pizzaT rooneymcnibnug@mastodon.socialR ams@infosec.exchangeA holsta@mastodon.artH 11 Replies Last reply
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    • babe@duck.rodeoB babe@duck.rodeo

      Are there any distros other than NetBSD and Gentoo that have explicitly banned AI-assisted contributions?

      smathermather@mapstodon.spaceS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @babe @ariadne is likely tracking (and scheming).

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      • babe@duck.rodeoB babe@duck.rodeo

        Are there any distros other than NetBSD and Gentoo that have explicitly banned AI-assisted contributions?

        trezzer@social.linux.pizzaT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @babe I heard about Elementary and a few others that I don’t remember right now.

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        • babe@duck.rodeoB babe@duck.rodeo

          Are there any distros other than NetBSD and Gentoo that have explicitly banned AI-assisted contributions?

          rooneymcnibnug@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
          rooneymcnibnug@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @babe http://9front.org/ 😅

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          • babe@duck.rodeoB babe@duck.rodeo

            Are there any distros other than NetBSD and Gentoo that have explicitly banned AI-assisted contributions?

            ams@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @babe NixOS I think?

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            • babe@duck.rodeoB babe@duck.rodeo

              Are there any distros other than NetBSD and Gentoo that have explicitly banned AI-assisted contributions?

              holsta@mastodon.artH This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @babe OpenBSD also rejects LLM assistance.

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              • babe@duck.rodeoB babe@duck.rodeo

                Are there any distros other than NetBSD and Gentoo that have explicitly banned AI-assisted contributions?

                ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @babe @chimera

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                • babe@duck.rodeoB babe@duck.rodeo

                  Are there any distros other than NetBSD and Gentoo that have explicitly banned AI-assisted contributions?

                  syhr@mastodon.artS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @babe CoffeeBSD, Hyperbola BSD, MirBSD, AerynOS, Arch, Chimera Linux, Elementary OS, Hyperbola GNU/Linux, secureblue, Gnome OS, and PostmarketOS

                  Source: https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#operating-systems

                  EDIT: Most of these have an anti-AI policy, but some of them have asterisks attached

                  babe@duck.rodeoB joshix@fosspri.deJ jfml@mastodon.artJ 3 Replies Last reply
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                  • holsta@mastodon.artH holsta@mastodon.art

                    @babe OpenBSD also rejects LLM assistance.

                    thomasadam@bsd.networkT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @holsta @babe Is there any literature on that? Tmux is in base, and that’s using AI.

                    brettm@swarm.coiloptic.orgB stsp@bsd.networkS 2 Replies Last reply
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                    • babe@duck.rodeoB babe@duck.rodeo

                      Are there any distros other than NetBSD and Gentoo that have explicitly banned AI-assisted contributions?

                      ghostdancer@mastodon.sdf.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @babe https://codeberg.org/brib/slopfree-software-index#operating-systems

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                      • syhr@mastodon.artS syhr@mastodon.art

                        @babe CoffeeBSD, Hyperbola BSD, MirBSD, AerynOS, Arch, Chimera Linux, Elementary OS, Hyperbola GNU/Linux, secureblue, Gnome OS, and PostmarketOS

                        Source: https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#operating-systems

                        EDIT: Most of these have an anti-AI policy, but some of them have asterisks attached

                        babe@duck.rodeoB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @syhr Ah nice, thank you for this!

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                        • syhr@mastodon.artS syhr@mastodon.art

                          @babe CoffeeBSD, Hyperbola BSD, MirBSD, AerynOS, Arch, Chimera Linux, Elementary OS, Hyperbola GNU/Linux, secureblue, Gnome OS, and PostmarketOS

                          Source: https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#operating-systems

                          EDIT: Most of these have an anti-AI policy, but some of them have asterisks attached

                          joshix@fosspri.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @syhr @babe every linux distribution has the asterisk of using linux

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                          • babe@duck.rodeoB babe@duck.rodeo

                            @syhr Ah nice, thank you for this!

                            syhr@mastodon.artS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @babe happy to help. I personally use @elementary by @danirabbit and it's wonderful

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                            • joshix@fosspri.deJ joshix@fosspri.de

                              @syhr @babe every linux distribution has the asterisk of using linux

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                              @joshix @babe very true, the kernel is tainted.

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                              • babe@duck.rodeoB babe@duck.rodeo

                                Are there any distros other than NetBSD and Gentoo that have explicitly banned AI-assisted contributions?

                                jabsonik@ihan.outo.laJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @babe @BustaMarx Maybe @elementary ?

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                                • thomasadam@bsd.networkT thomasadam@bsd.network

                                  @holsta @babe Is there any literature on that? Tmux is in base, and that’s using AI.

                                  brettm@swarm.coiloptic.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16
                                  @thomasadam@bsd.network @holsta@mastodon.art @babe@duck.rodeo tmux is in netbsd as well as openbsd, so equally sloppy. Openbsd does not have a formal policy however you can find a mailing list reply from theo de raadt saying his viee that they can't accept ai contributions due to copyright not being assignable. Openbsd uses llvm/clang in base which is fairly sloppy, idk what complier netbsd uses. Gentoo uses linux kernal so is giant pile of slop i think we must conclude.

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                                  • brettm@swarm.coiloptic.orgB brettm@swarm.coiloptic.org
                                    @thomasadam@bsd.network @holsta@mastodon.art @babe@duck.rodeo tmux is in netbsd as well as openbsd, so equally sloppy. Openbsd does not have a formal policy however you can find a mailing list reply from theo de raadt saying his viee that they can't accept ai contributions due to copyright not being assignable. Openbsd uses llvm/clang in base which is fairly sloppy, idk what complier netbsd uses. Gentoo uses linux kernal so is giant pile of slop i think we must conclude.

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                                    @brettm @holsta @babe Yes indeed. But for things actively developed in OBSD base, I’d argue that’s slightly different as to get your application there in the first place implies a high bar of quality. I’m sure deraadt will follow it up in due course.

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                                    • syhr@mastodon.artS syhr@mastodon.art

                                      @babe CoffeeBSD, Hyperbola BSD, MirBSD, AerynOS, Arch, Chimera Linux, Elementary OS, Hyperbola GNU/Linux, secureblue, Gnome OS, and PostmarketOS

                                      Source: https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#operating-systems

                                      EDIT: Most of these have an anti-AI policy, but some of them have asterisks attached

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                                      @syhr @babe Amazing resource, thanks a lot!

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                                      • thomasadam@bsd.networkT thomasadam@bsd.network

                                        @holsta @babe Is there any literature on that? Tmux is in base, and that’s using AI.

                                        stsp@bsd.networkS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @thomasadam @holsta @babe The arguments raised by project leadership was rejection of genAI on legal and quality grounds. Quality aside (it is subjective and applies equally to handwritten contributions) this leaves the copyright legal questions which I think are a weak position against genAI. Because as soon as laws change in genAI's favour the argument stops being valid.

                                        Honestly, if there was a voting system in the OpenBSD project (there isn't) I would expect a similar result to the one from Debian. While there are developers with strong green/left political positions, there are an equal, if not more, people who fall into the middle and conservative camps. I once tried to get Hitler quotes removed from fortune files and that showed a huge division on the subject. I had to ask everyone to stop the discussion and leave my private inbox alone and dropped the proposal.

                                        I believe quality gating will keep openbsd fairly free of nonsense AI code. So by all means, use it and you can largely ignore the AI stuff. But don't go into the community expecting a completely left-wing/green aligned crowd. That is not a valid reason to stick around there.

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                                        • thomasadam@bsd.networkT thomasadam@bsd.network

                                          @brettm @holsta @babe Yes indeed. But for things actively developed in OBSD base, I’d argue that’s slightly different as to get your application there in the first place implies a high bar of quality. I’m sure deraadt will follow it up in due course.

                                          brettm@swarm.coiloptic.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @thomasadam@bsd.network @holsta@mastodon.art @babe@duck.rodeo afaik tmux gets developed in github first, but everything gets imported to openbsd almost immediately. Even though it ships with base i'm not sure if Theo considers it 'part of base.' Personally i would rather see those commits get carved out but i'm not sure they will. Possibly in the future ppl will have to write an OS from scratch in Zig to get slopfree 😞

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