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This is the future those who push for age verification want for us.

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  • fds@mastodon.socialF fds@mastodon.social

    @Gargron If they need to do age verification, I can't see why it cannot be something similar to iPhones storing your passport (or driving license and even other IDs) and the device basically gives a thumbs up to the person being old enough.

    Could Apple or Google be hacked or if it's stored locally, is there a chance of it being stolen? Yes, but minimizing the spread of the information helps reduce the risk.

    Especially since we won't hold companies liable for bad security practices.

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    @Gargron Also, it seems a lot of the companies that do age verification train AI on the data. I do not understand why the UK thinks it's acceptable to ship people's data over to some fly by night US startup who will try to make money off your data.

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    • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

      RE: https://post.lurk.org/@shibacomputer/116827981116605348

      This is the future those who push for age verification want for us.

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      #42

      @Gargron the only winning move is to REFUSE TO COMPLY!

      https://tech.lgbt/@Netzblockierer/116827121953256096

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      • iju@mastodon.socialI iju@mastodon.social

        @harib_murshidi @mischi2000 @Gargron

        IMHO USA is a bad example on social panics, seeing as that's the local culture going all the way back to the literal witch hunts.

        As such it's not really the state/federation doing the hunts, they're just reflecting societal customs instead of rising above them (which was Hegel's idea, iirc).

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        #43

        @iju @mischi2000 @Gargron

        Witch huntings were happening in #England as well during the 'English Civil War' especially when Matthew Hopkins (The Witchfynder General) was operating around !

        I am not an American but as an observer from a far away continent, Americans are very 'OK' with violence, blood and gore but very queasy about nudity and anything which implies nudity or any kind of saxuality ! It's the other way around in #Europe
        somewhat

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        • iju@mastodon.socialI iju@mastodon.social

          @harib_murshidi @mischi2000 @Gargron

          >What exactly is a 'fake profile' ? When the internet was introduced [- -] it was specifically considered the most important rule that you should not divulge any real information ..

          Yeah, and the dotcom-crash was caused in large part by the inability for advertisers to target who was seeing the ads.

          So the web2.0 got advertisements tied to profiles that were linked if not to ID, then at least to a large dossier of likes, dislikes, and spending habits.

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          @iju @mischi2000 @Gargron

          Well, I don't understand it... you are saying that is that a good thing or a bad thing, I certainly don't want anybody to track my habits and have no interest in getting any 'localised' ads ! 😐

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          • solitha@mastodon.socialS solitha@mastodon.social

            @theeclecticdyslexic I thought about that, but... that's a process.

            You'd have to prove you're you to the government again to deprecate your old ID and receive a new one.

            Then you'd have to update every institution using the deprecated ID. And then they can oopsie leak it again.

            @Gargron

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            @solitha

            No argument from me. I only think given the societal affinity to proactively address problems like this (or even retroactively for that matter), I'm pretty sure this is how this will go. At least for a while.

            @Gargron

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            • harib_murshidi@mastodon.socialH harib_murshidi@mastodon.social

              @mischi2000 @Gargron Just leave parenting to parents, the world does not need 'nanny states'.

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              @harib_murshidi @mischi2000 @Gargron Public schools teaching critical thinking skills makes for a "nanny state"?

              For someone with a hammer and sickle symbol in their name that's quite the libertarian take.

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              • asimech@mastodon.socialA asimech@mastodon.social

                @harib_murshidi @mischi2000 @Gargron Public schools teaching critical thinking skills makes for a "nanny state"?

                For someone with a hammer and sickle symbol in their name that's quite the libertarian take.

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                @Asimech @mischi2000 @Gargron

                When did I say that 'public schools teaching critical thinking skills' make for a nanny state ?! 😐

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                • harib_murshidi@mastodon.socialH harib_murshidi@mastodon.social

                  @iju @mischi2000 @Gargron

                  Well, I don't understand it... you are saying that is that a good thing or a bad thing, I certainly don't want anybody to track my habits and have no interest in getting any 'localised' ads ! 😐

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                  @harib_murshidi @mischi2000 @Gargron

                  >Well, I don't understand it... you are saying that is that a good thing or a bad thing

                  It's either or, depending on do you see yourself as making money, or as someone to be made money out of.

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                  • bauarbeiterforfuture@mas.toB bauarbeiterforfuture@mas.to

                    @babe @Gargron what is OSA?

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                    #49

                    @BauarbeiterforFuture @babe @Gargron Online Safety Act 2023 - it’s the UK law that among other things requires “robust age verification” for access to various adult content and is responsible for people in the UK needing to hand over ID to shady third parties in order to access perfectly legal content, not to mention causing a load of sites to now geo-block the UK entirely as a result of this nonsense.

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