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Does #capitalism still deliver, or does it only destroy our living space for #profit?

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  • scriptkiddie@anonsys.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Does #capitalism still deliver, or does it only destroy our living space for #profit?

    Anyone who is not completely blind can see the slope is getting steeper. We are like on the Titanic. The iceberg is right ahead. Everyone stares at it like a deer in headlights. Frozen. Or weirdly fascinated. No one moves.

    Capitalism does not even need #democracy. It runs just fine in #China. The #rich get richer at breathtaking speed. They gain more power every day. Meanwhile, many people are exploited. Some even go hungry.

    #Infrastructure falls apart where it brings no profit. Gains are privatized. Losses are shared by everyone. Capitalism works great for arms races and wars. It also works great for rebuilding after. Only #peace seems to bring too little profit.

    #Diseases without profitable drugs are ignored. Human suffering does not always sell well. But social-media #algorithms that shake democracy? Very profitable. Public goods, #privacy, data protection, #ethics — all side characters. Hard to monetize. The #future and sustainability also feel optional when today’s shareholder payout boosts #power and profit.

    Why do we believe that people driven by greed and contempt will build a better future? Maybe #humanity does not really care about democracy or ethics. Maybe it only cares about #consumption. Ads promise that buying things will make us #happy. And of course, anyone against capitalism should throw the first #smartphone.

    Running water, electricity, full supermarkets — all nice. Until you notice the food is packed with sugar and salt. Fresh fruit and vegetables carry poison. The oceans are overfished. The fish comes with #microplastics as a bonus. Wild animals vanish, pushed out by humans. Only farm animals multiply by the millions. They #suffer. #Nature breaks.

    This story does not feel like it has a happy ending. Not if we keep scrolling and call it progress.

    #civilization #question #news #system #matrix #politics #economy #business #freedom #mankind #collapse #apocalypse #war #terror #military #crisis #pollution #extinction #emissions #climate #disaster #security #fascism #earth #food #poison #problem

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    • scriptkiddie@anonsys.netS scriptkiddie@anonsys.net

      Does #capitalism still deliver, or does it only destroy our living space for #profit?

      Anyone who is not completely blind can see the slope is getting steeper. We are like on the Titanic. The iceberg is right ahead. Everyone stares at it like a deer in headlights. Frozen. Or weirdly fascinated. No one moves.

      Capitalism does not even need #democracy. It runs just fine in #China. The #rich get richer at breathtaking speed. They gain more power every day. Meanwhile, many people are exploited. Some even go hungry.

      #Infrastructure falls apart where it brings no profit. Gains are privatized. Losses are shared by everyone. Capitalism works great for arms races and wars. It also works great for rebuilding after. Only #peace seems to bring too little profit.

      #Diseases without profitable drugs are ignored. Human suffering does not always sell well. But social-media #algorithms that shake democracy? Very profitable. Public goods, #privacy, data protection, #ethics — all side characters. Hard to monetize. The #future and sustainability also feel optional when today’s shareholder payout boosts #power and profit.

      Why do we believe that people driven by greed and contempt will build a better future? Maybe #humanity does not really care about democracy or ethics. Maybe it only cares about #consumption. Ads promise that buying things will make us #happy. And of course, anyone against capitalism should throw the first #smartphone.

      Running water, electricity, full supermarkets — all nice. Until you notice the food is packed with sugar and salt. Fresh fruit and vegetables carry poison. The oceans are overfished. The fish comes with #microplastics as a bonus. Wild animals vanish, pushed out by humans. Only farm animals multiply by the millions. They #suffer. #Nature breaks.

      This story does not feel like it has a happy ending. Not if we keep scrolling and call it progress.

      #civilization #question #news #system #matrix #politics #economy #business #freedom #mankind #collapse #apocalypse #war #terror #military #crisis #pollution #extinction #emissions #climate #disaster #security #fascism #earth #food #poison #problem

      madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
      madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @scriptkiddie

      Sooo...social democracy is out of the question? I mean, it works pretty well for us here in Scandinavia, but it seems that the world is going all in on one or the other, with no room for compromise.

      Well, I guess you all do you, and we will do our best to help you pick up whatever pieces remain.

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      • madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.net

        @scriptkiddie

        Sooo...social democracy is out of the question? I mean, it works pretty well for us here in Scandinavia, but it seems that the world is going all in on one or the other, with no room for compromise.

        Well, I guess you all do you, and we will do our best to help you pick up whatever pieces remain.

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        scriptkiddie@anonsys.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @madsenandersc - I do not deny that Scandinavia has some of the best democracies in the world. People there are also among the happiest. Still, my view of the future turned me into a small, cynical beast.

        Take Norway. It may have the best welfare system on Earth. Sounds great. But it is funded by oil pumped from the sea. Oil that feeds climate change. And let’s not even start with the seal pups that were killed for years. Like many places, Norway also has a twisted elite. Some were even linked to Jeffrey Epstein.

        Then there is Sweden. The country hurt its own image in the case of Julian Assange. Its military sometimes feels like it runs its own side quest. Submarines appear near the coast. Fear spreads. The public watches like extras in a tense thriller.

        Denmark treats refugees harshly. Food there is also very expensive. And Denmark could have treated the people of Greenland much better, much earlier.

        Can I count Iceland as Scandinavia for a moment? During the banking crisis, Iceland behaved badly too. It never fully dared a true reset. Even though it saw, more clearly than most, how ugly capitalism can get when criminal bankers run the show.

        Sometimes the “happiest region on Earth” feels less like a utopia. More like a shiny Black Mirror episode — bright surface, dark plot, and a warning hiding in plain sight.

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        • scriptkiddie@anonsys.netS scriptkiddie@anonsys.net

          @madsenandersc - I do not deny that Scandinavia has some of the best democracies in the world. People there are also among the happiest. Still, my view of the future turned me into a small, cynical beast.

          Take Norway. It may have the best welfare system on Earth. Sounds great. But it is funded by oil pumped from the sea. Oil that feeds climate change. And let’s not even start with the seal pups that were killed for years. Like many places, Norway also has a twisted elite. Some were even linked to Jeffrey Epstein.

          Then there is Sweden. The country hurt its own image in the case of Julian Assange. Its military sometimes feels like it runs its own side quest. Submarines appear near the coast. Fear spreads. The public watches like extras in a tense thriller.

          Denmark treats refugees harshly. Food there is also very expensive. And Denmark could have treated the people of Greenland much better, much earlier.

          Can I count Iceland as Scandinavia for a moment? During the banking crisis, Iceland behaved badly too. It never fully dared a true reset. Even though it saw, more clearly than most, how ugly capitalism can get when criminal bankers run the show.

          Sometimes the “happiest region on Earth” feels less like a utopia. More like a shiny Black Mirror episode — bright surface, dark plot, and a warning hiding in plain sight.

          madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
          madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
          madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.net
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @scriptkiddie

          You can find issues with every government on earth at some point in time, and I am not denying that we have had our fair share of failures for sure, and some are still ongoing.

          However, you were talking about fundamental structures, not individual governments, and I think that is an important distinction.

          We have had governments trying to rectify failures of the past, trying to make amends for the things that have been done to others, things that should never have happened. All of that has nothing to do with capitalism or communism.

          What I am trying to say is that our societies are trying to make sure that everyone has a bed with a roof over it, tha nobody goes to bed hungry and nobody dies from easily treatable diseases.

          I am not saying that we are in any way perfect, but we sure as hell do not let banks throw people on the streets and leave them there to freeze to death, or let hospitals deny treatment to people who cannot pay or allow companies to work people into the ground for profits without throwing the book at them.

          In my view, capitalism is money before people. Communism is power before people. Neither is acceptable in 2026.

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