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  • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

    You know the whole #Coxon #Anthropic "We're all gonna die" thing? It's kinda looking like paid astroturfing. Marketing psyop to coincide with #Nvidia declaring that microchips are "long term investible assets". We are being played, y'all.

    Jacob had almost zero footprint, wiped his X before the post, and had only been at Anthropic for a few months. Within a few minutes of the WSJ dropping the story, he does his announcement post on the twitters, and is instantly boosted by some of the biggest names in the AI field, which is not how organic engagement works for an account with no followers. His follower count goes up by hundreds of thousands, he gets media attention everywhere, and suddenly everyone is talking about LLM like it's a mind, and not a computer with an OFF switch.

    At the same time, Nvidia hard launches the term "AI Factory" to rebrand datacenters and try and raise 500 billion dollars from your retirement fund.

    I dunno gang, I think I'm calling shenanigans on this.

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    #10

    @MissConstrue

    My mom called me freaking out yesterday. This is basically the gist of what I told her. It's all part of the hype machine. AI has raised about as much as they can from the US now and they are now trying to court European investors and this shit just happens to coincide with that and what you mentioned about Nvidia. They need the money spigot open and every tine somebody tries to shut it, they pull some shit like this. To VC investors it says...

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    • collapse@counterforce.socialC collapse@counterforce.social

      @MissConstrue

      My mom called me freaking out yesterday. This is basically the gist of what I told her. It's all part of the hype machine. AI has raised about as much as they can from the US now and they are now trying to court European investors and this shit just happens to coincide with that and what you mentioned about Nvidia. They need the money spigot open and every tine somebody tries to shut it, they pull some shit like this. To VC investors it says...

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      #11

      ..."We have something super powerful invest while you still can." It's very different than what the public hears. That's by design. They don't wan't insignificant investors muddying up their rich people shit. They need trilions in investments. Part of these ETF's are to mine that money from retirement accounts that invest in hedge funds (see the spacex fiasco). They are also trying to raise money with really risky bonds that should have much higher yields for the amount of risk.

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      • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

        You know the whole #Coxon #Anthropic "We're all gonna die" thing? It's kinda looking like paid astroturfing. Marketing psyop to coincide with #Nvidia declaring that microchips are "long term investible assets". We are being played, y'all.

        Jacob had almost zero footprint, wiped his X before the post, and had only been at Anthropic for a few months. Within a few minutes of the WSJ dropping the story, he does his announcement post on the twitters, and is instantly boosted by some of the biggest names in the AI field, which is not how organic engagement works for an account with no followers. His follower count goes up by hundreds of thousands, he gets media attention everywhere, and suddenly everyone is talking about LLM like it's a mind, and not a computer with an OFF switch.

        At the same time, Nvidia hard launches the term "AI Factory" to rebrand datacenters and try and raise 500 billion dollars from your retirement fund.

        I dunno gang, I think I'm calling shenanigans on this.

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        #12

        @MissConstrue

        We are officially at the age of don’t believe anything they say.

        Their power was their credibility that they never deserved.

        Without credibility only stupid people will invest and lose their investments.

        Maybe this is good 🤔

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        • hosford42@techhub.socialH hosford42@techhub.social

          @laprice

          Virtual golems that manifest in the real world as heater warehouses that eat water, electricity, and old books... What a weird place the future turned out to be.

          @MissConstrue

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          #13

          @hosford42 @laprice I do not care for it, not a single whit!

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          • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

            @MissConstrue a large parts of our societies are secured through obscurity, there's hundreds of neoclouds coming online trying to tap the GPU rental market, transferring terabytes over the internet is relatively fast these days. The "off" switch is security theatre, the threat is real, and so is the pre-IPO scaremongering.

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            #14

            @budududuroiu I get that there isn't a big red button to power down a single box. But, for example, were an agent swarm detected, it is absolutely possible to shut down the origination. the phone-home locus, any number of other locations...etc. Would it be inconvenient? Certainly. It is possible? absolutely. In most places in the US, the grid can be shut off by street/block/address.

            And if what you're saying is that they can somehow stay active state without power, then we have something we need to take outside and kill with fire.

            (Full disclosure: Big fan of fire.) 😉

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            • collapse@counterforce.socialC collapse@counterforce.social

              ..."We have something super powerful invest while you still can." It's very different than what the public hears. That's by design. They don't wan't insignificant investors muddying up their rich people shit. They need trilions in investments. Part of these ETF's are to mine that money from retirement accounts that invest in hedge funds (see the spacex fiasco). They are also trying to raise money with really risky bonds that should have much higher yields for the amount of risk.

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              #15

              @collapse Someone just told me that Altman said OpenAI decided *not* to ipo this year. I haven't verified yet. If so...then this begins to look even more engineered...they are bleeding money, and the circular funding is about to dry up.

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              • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                You know the whole #Coxon #Anthropic "We're all gonna die" thing? It's kinda looking like paid astroturfing. Marketing psyop to coincide with #Nvidia declaring that microchips are "long term investible assets". We are being played, y'all.

                Jacob had almost zero footprint, wiped his X before the post, and had only been at Anthropic for a few months. Within a few minutes of the WSJ dropping the story, he does his announcement post on the twitters, and is instantly boosted by some of the biggest names in the AI field, which is not how organic engagement works for an account with no followers. His follower count goes up by hundreds of thousands, he gets media attention everywhere, and suddenly everyone is talking about LLM like it's a mind, and not a computer with an OFF switch.

                At the same time, Nvidia hard launches the term "AI Factory" to rebrand datacenters and try and raise 500 billion dollars from your retirement fund.

                I dunno gang, I think I'm calling shenanigans on this.

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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #16

                @MissConstrue

                I’m so fed up and tired of the bullshit.

                Tech isn’t cool anymore. They can take their smart watches, TV and other appliance personalized flock devices and shove them up their asses.

                AI is genocide and the people who run the big tech need to have their companies dismantled underneath them and they need to be run out of town after they’ve been tarred and feathered

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                • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                  You know the whole #Coxon #Anthropic "We're all gonna die" thing? It's kinda looking like paid astroturfing. Marketing psyop to coincide with #Nvidia declaring that microchips are "long term investible assets". We are being played, y'all.

                  Jacob had almost zero footprint, wiped his X before the post, and had only been at Anthropic for a few months. Within a few minutes of the WSJ dropping the story, he does his announcement post on the twitters, and is instantly boosted by some of the biggest names in the AI field, which is not how organic engagement works for an account with no followers. His follower count goes up by hundreds of thousands, he gets media attention everywhere, and suddenly everyone is talking about LLM like it's a mind, and not a computer with an OFF switch.

                  At the same time, Nvidia hard launches the term "AI Factory" to rebrand datacenters and try and raise 500 billion dollars from your retirement fund.

                  I dunno gang, I think I'm calling shenanigans on this.

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                  #17

                  Woah. As a rule, when playing Cassandra, there exists a period of time between prophecy and happenstance. Almost always you have enough time to climb up a hill so you can be silhouetted against a thunderstorm saying "Why didn't you believe me? Too late now!"

                  Y'all I had time to make some rice. Like, seriously. I posted this, I went off and made dinner, and while helping Daughter pack got a ping about this article.

                  #Altman says #OpenAi Will Not #IPO this year, but it's not, really really not, because they're afraid to let their books be audited. Instead, it's totally because AI is so scawwwy! So scary, you guys! Did you see that guy who said Anthropic's #AI was going to kill us all, so...you should give us your money so our AI can save you from their AI.

                  Sure, Jan.

                  https://gizmodo.com/altman-says-openai-wont-ipo-this-year-2000811051

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                  • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                    @MissConstrue

                    I’m so fed up and tired of the bullshit.

                    Tech isn’t cool anymore. They can take their smart watches, TV and other appliance personalized flock devices and shove them up their asses.

                    AI is genocide and the people who run the big tech need to have their companies dismantled underneath them and they need to be run out of town after they’ve been tarred and feathered

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                    #18

                    @GhostOnTheHalfShell Have feathers, will travel.

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                    • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                      @GhostOnTheHalfShell Have feathers, will travel.

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                      #19

                      @MissConstrue

                      Hey, I am all for traditional values

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarring_and_feathering

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                      • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                        Woah. As a rule, when playing Cassandra, there exists a period of time between prophecy and happenstance. Almost always you have enough time to climb up a hill so you can be silhouetted against a thunderstorm saying "Why didn't you believe me? Too late now!"

                        Y'all I had time to make some rice. Like, seriously. I posted this, I went off and made dinner, and while helping Daughter pack got a ping about this article.

                        #Altman says #OpenAi Will Not #IPO this year, but it's not, really really not, because they're afraid to let their books be audited. Instead, it's totally because AI is so scawwwy! So scary, you guys! Did you see that guy who said Anthropic's #AI was going to kill us all, so...you should give us your money so our AI can save you from their AI.

                        Sure, Jan.

                        https://gizmodo.com/altman-says-openai-wont-ipo-this-year-2000811051

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                        #20

                        @MissConstrue Bender's doomer / booster being opposite sides of the same coin sounds more & more accurate, and it started off sounded pretty smart.

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                        • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                          @MissConstrue

                          Hey, I am all for traditional values

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarring_and_feathering

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                          #21

                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell I tried to convince some friends to help me carry a whole tarred and feathered and rode out on a rail themed protest prop for the GOP Grindr Fest in Dallas.

                          I failed to take into account how heavy a railroad tie is. Subsequently how heavy a 6' 4x4 is...and we came to the conclusion that it was more than our contingent of Antifa Grannies could manage, but now we know, and we're building it from cardboard for the next time Ken Paxton shows his face.

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                          • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                            @GhostOnTheHalfShell I tried to convince some friends to help me carry a whole tarred and feathered and rode out on a rail themed protest prop for the GOP Grindr Fest in Dallas.

                            I failed to take into account how heavy a railroad tie is. Subsequently how heavy a 6' 4x4 is...and we came to the conclusion that it was more than our contingent of Antifa Grannies could manage, but now we know, and we're building it from cardboard for the next time Ken Paxton shows his face.

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                            #22

                            @MissConstrue

                            A half scale nonfunctional model of a guillotine where the blade is made out of duct tape and foil of some kind works really well. It worked in Salem Oregon.

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                            • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                              You know the whole #Coxon #Anthropic "We're all gonna die" thing? It's kinda looking like paid astroturfing. Marketing psyop to coincide with #Nvidia declaring that microchips are "long term investible assets". We are being played, y'all.

                              Jacob had almost zero footprint, wiped his X before the post, and had only been at Anthropic for a few months. Within a few minutes of the WSJ dropping the story, he does his announcement post on the twitters, and is instantly boosted by some of the biggest names in the AI field, which is not how organic engagement works for an account with no followers. His follower count goes up by hundreds of thousands, he gets media attention everywhere, and suddenly everyone is talking about LLM like it's a mind, and not a computer with an OFF switch.

                              At the same time, Nvidia hard launches the term "AI Factory" to rebrand datacenters and try and raise 500 billion dollars from your retirement fund.

                              I dunno gang, I think I'm calling shenanigans on this.

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                              #23

                              @MissConstrue i did what?

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                              • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                                Woah. As a rule, when playing Cassandra, there exists a period of time between prophecy and happenstance. Almost always you have enough time to climb up a hill so you can be silhouetted against a thunderstorm saying "Why didn't you believe me? Too late now!"

                                Y'all I had time to make some rice. Like, seriously. I posted this, I went off and made dinner, and while helping Daughter pack got a ping about this article.

                                #Altman says #OpenAi Will Not #IPO this year, but it's not, really really not, because they're afraid to let their books be audited. Instead, it's totally because AI is so scawwwy! So scary, you guys! Did you see that guy who said Anthropic's #AI was going to kill us all, so...you should give us your money so our AI can save you from their AI.

                                Sure, Jan.

                                https://gizmodo.com/altman-says-openai-wont-ipo-this-year-2000811051

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                                #24

                                @MissConstrue I was wondering how Scam Altman was going to avoid the IPO given how badly Felon Musk's IPO went.

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                                • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                                  @budududuroiu I get that there isn't a big red button to power down a single box. But, for example, were an agent swarm detected, it is absolutely possible to shut down the origination. the phone-home locus, any number of other locations...etc. Would it be inconvenient? Certainly. It is possible? absolutely. In most places in the US, the grid can be shut off by street/block/address.

                                  And if what you're saying is that they can somehow stay active state without power, then we have something we need to take outside and kill with fire.

                                  (Full disclosure: Big fan of fire.) 😉

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                                  #25

                                  @MissConstrue yeah, I think I'm not as optimistic (anecdotally) about our collective capacity to do enough secops and monitoring on the open internet. We probably can kill it with fire, not so sure we're prepared to do it in time

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                                  • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                                    You know the whole #Coxon #Anthropic "We're all gonna die" thing? It's kinda looking like paid astroturfing. Marketing psyop to coincide with #Nvidia declaring that microchips are "long term investible assets". We are being played, y'all.

                                    Jacob had almost zero footprint, wiped his X before the post, and had only been at Anthropic for a few months. Within a few minutes of the WSJ dropping the story, he does his announcement post on the twitters, and is instantly boosted by some of the biggest names in the AI field, which is not how organic engagement works for an account with no followers. His follower count goes up by hundreds of thousands, he gets media attention everywhere, and suddenly everyone is talking about LLM like it's a mind, and not a computer with an OFF switch.

                                    At the same time, Nvidia hard launches the term "AI Factory" to rebrand datacenters and try and raise 500 billion dollars from your retirement fund.

                                    I dunno gang, I think I'm calling shenanigans on this.

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                                    #26

                                    @MissConstrue

                                    +1 on calling shenanigans.

                                    Related analysis on how the big AI labs are reporting the depreciation of their big fancy chips:

                                    https://todon.eu/@dusk/117072744425928224

                                    #bubble #ai

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                                    • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                                      You know the whole #Coxon #Anthropic "We're all gonna die" thing? It's kinda looking like paid astroturfing. Marketing psyop to coincide with #Nvidia declaring that microchips are "long term investible assets". We are being played, y'all.

                                      Jacob had almost zero footprint, wiped his X before the post, and had only been at Anthropic for a few months. Within a few minutes of the WSJ dropping the story, he does his announcement post on the twitters, and is instantly boosted by some of the biggest names in the AI field, which is not how organic engagement works for an account with no followers. His follower count goes up by hundreds of thousands, he gets media attention everywhere, and suddenly everyone is talking about LLM like it's a mind, and not a computer with an OFF switch.

                                      At the same time, Nvidia hard launches the term "AI Factory" to rebrand datacenters and try and raise 500 billion dollars from your retirement fund.

                                      I dunno gang, I think I'm calling shenanigans on this.

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                                      #27

                                      @MissConstrue there's a protection-racket aspect to how #OpenAI has been conducting their business: they push into an existing systems, then fings break (as they do) and OpenAI is scheming to the be the guys who can lead them out of the labyrinth that they themselves created.

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                                      • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                                        You know the whole #Coxon #Anthropic "We're all gonna die" thing? It's kinda looking like paid astroturfing. Marketing psyop to coincide with #Nvidia declaring that microchips are "long term investible assets". We are being played, y'all.

                                        Jacob had almost zero footprint, wiped his X before the post, and had only been at Anthropic for a few months. Within a few minutes of the WSJ dropping the story, he does his announcement post on the twitters, and is instantly boosted by some of the biggest names in the AI field, which is not how organic engagement works for an account with no followers. His follower count goes up by hundreds of thousands, he gets media attention everywhere, and suddenly everyone is talking about LLM like it's a mind, and not a computer with an OFF switch.

                                        At the same time, Nvidia hard launches the term "AI Factory" to rebrand datacenters and try and raise 500 billion dollars from your retirement fund.

                                        I dunno gang, I think I'm calling shenanigans on this.

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                                        #28

                                        @MissConstrue
                                        I remember pre-dotcom bubble that most sane folks thought there was a crash coming. They just didn't know when. IIRC the crash came almost a year later than I though it would happen.

                                        Here we are at a moment that has been *screaming* imminent crash for almost two years.
                                        But it keeps not happening. Is there something about everybody knowing a crash is coming that makes it so fintech bros can skirt an actual crash happening? The market just .. absorbs it somehow?

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                                        • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                                          You know the whole #Coxon #Anthropic "We're all gonna die" thing? It's kinda looking like paid astroturfing. Marketing psyop to coincide with #Nvidia declaring that microchips are "long term investible assets". We are being played, y'all.

                                          Jacob had almost zero footprint, wiped his X before the post, and had only been at Anthropic for a few months. Within a few minutes of the WSJ dropping the story, he does his announcement post on the twitters, and is instantly boosted by some of the biggest names in the AI field, which is not how organic engagement works for an account with no followers. His follower count goes up by hundreds of thousands, he gets media attention everywhere, and suddenly everyone is talking about LLM like it's a mind, and not a computer with an OFF switch.

                                          At the same time, Nvidia hard launches the term "AI Factory" to rebrand datacenters and try and raise 500 billion dollars from your retirement fund.

                                          I dunno gang, I think I'm calling shenanigans on this.

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                                          #29

                                          @MissConstrue it's all so obviously marketing bullshit, it would be funny to watch if they weren't playing with world scale economy

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