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  • aslakr@mastodon.socialA aslakr@mastodon.social

    @liaizon @_elena @Razemix It seems like it's a bit inconsistent. vonderleyen https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:wr6esgkuixhvsge3ueraz6yb#identity and ec.europa.eu https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:oxo226vi7t2btjokm2buusoy#identity uses W, while e.g. jessikaroswall https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:7jh367ofh36xyxb7mpu7xigi#identity uses bsky.

    On Blacksky vonderleyen https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:wr6esgkuixhvsge3ueraz6yb and ec.europa.eu https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:oxo226vi7t2btjokm2buusoy apears like they are currently deactivated.

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    #66

    @aslakr @_elena @Razemix oh wow thats bizarre. I wonder if Blacksky and W are federating at all?

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
      - I was given some information on background, confidentially
      - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

      Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

      Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

      rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #67

      @_elena thank you for your work on this, and everything else.

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        @Razemix well, ATproto is not like the Fediverse, to be truly independent and sovereign you need to host your own PDS, relay, firehose and moderation (amongst other things). It takes money, resources and expertise. I'm surprised they didn't move to Eurosky TBH

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        #68

        @Razemix@mamutovo.cz @_elena@mastodon.social

        You don't need a relay, with a cheap constellation instance and https://reddwarf.app you can use bluesky without touching blueskys infrastructure.

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        • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

          @aslakr @_elena @Razemix oh wow thats bizarre. I wonder if Blacksky and W are federating at all?

          irelephant@app.wafrn.netI This user is from outside of this forum
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          #69

          @Razemix@mamutovo.cz @liaizon@social.wake.st @aslakr@mastodon.social @_elena@mastodon.social

          It's probably a bug on blacksky's end

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
            - I was given some information on background, confidentially
            - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

            Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

            Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

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            #70

            File under: #WSocial shenanigans

            I was alerted by @usti that the video of the Monaco AI conference presentation by W Social CEO Anna Zeiter was removed from their YouTube channel. You know, the video that I referenced in my second exposé about W Social, quoted extensively (because some of her statements were truly shocking).

            This is the only video that was removed from their channel. I thought I had downloaded a copy to my computer... but hey, proof from the Wayback Machine of its existence

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

              The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

              I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

              My articles on them:

              🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

              Wow. Just wow.

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              #71
              @_elena@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
              Politicians should have social media account on open free software platforms hosted by the government, this is so dumb.
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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
                - I was given some information on background, confidentially
                - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

                Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

                Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

                dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                dzwiedziu@mastodon.social
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                #72

                @_elena
                > Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

                Well, isn't what's “WWW” about?

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                • bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.placeB bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @_elena @EUCommission it is baffling to me that they are not using Mastodon (EU instance) as their primary communication tool.

                  I hear the argument a lot that Mastodon is lacking reach but the instance could literally treated like a government website where the "reach" argument wouldn't count anyways.

                  naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #73

                  @bitbraindev And Mastodon would gain more reach if more politicians, journalists, etc would be here.

                  But meanwhile, with all bad developments coming with growing size, I'm quite happy about some cosy caves 😉 which are better protected against toxic profit crap or AISlop.

                  @_elena @EUCommission

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Dear Fedi friends,

                    Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                    The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                    I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                    My articles on them:

                    🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                    Wow. Just wow.

                    ohir@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #74

                    @_elena
                    > I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise

                    I can easily not only fathom but be pretty sure why. I just do not know the sum.

                    @NatureMC
                    > lobbyism

                    We need to stop to use euphemisms. Not "lobbyism" but bribery. Not "investor;'s interests" but corruption.

                    The only place to use lobbyism for me is in the phrase "Lobbying should be punished by a life sentence for any party participating".

                    @EUCommission

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      File under: #WSocial shenanigans

                      I was alerted by @usti that the video of the Monaco AI conference presentation by W Social CEO Anna Zeiter was removed from their YouTube channel. You know, the video that I referenced in my second exposé about W Social, quoted extensively (because some of her statements were truly shocking).

                      This is the only video that was removed from their channel. I thought I had downloaded a copy to my computer... but hey, proof from the Wayback Machine of its existence

                      michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      michelpatrice@jasette.facil.services
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                      #75

                      @_elena

                      Removing this video looks an admission of guilt.

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                      • bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.placeB bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @_elena @EUCommission it is baffling to me that they are not using Mastodon (EU instance) as their primary communication tool.

                        I hear the argument a lot that Mastodon is lacking reach but the instance could literally treated like a government website where the "reach" argument wouldn't count anyways.

                        mabande@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #76

                        @bitbraindev @_elena @EUCommission and anyone not interested in actively monitoring a site or social could just follow the account's rss feed.

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                        • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                          @_elena
                          > I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise

                          I can easily not only fathom but be pretty sure why. I just do not know the sum.

                          @NatureMC
                          > lobbyism

                          We need to stop to use euphemisms. Not "lobbyism" but bribery. Not "investor;'s interests" but corruption.

                          The only place to use lobbyism for me is in the phrase "Lobbying should be punished by a life sentence for any party participating".

                          @EUCommission

                          naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #77

                          @ohir You can use whatever words you want. But let me use the words I want, it's my profession. I differ between lobbyism and murder. And I try to stay objective and calm in language.

                          @_elena @EUCommission

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                          • michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM michelpatrice@jasette.facil.services

                            @_elena

                            Removing this video looks an admission of guilt.

                            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #78

                            @MichelPatrice 1000%

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              @bitbraindev SPOT ON. They could easily bridge their Mastodon account to Bluesky using BridgyFed... a Mastodon account that is truly sovereign / their own

                              @EUCommission

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                              #79

                              @_elena @EUCommission ah wonderful example how it is done correctly are the German official broadcast services such as @BR24 hosted on a dedicated ard.social instance.

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                File under: #WSocial shenanigans

                                I was alerted by @usti that the video of the Monaco AI conference presentation by W Social CEO Anna Zeiter was removed from their YouTube channel. You know, the video that I referenced in my second exposé about W Social, quoted extensively (because some of her statements were truly shocking).

                                This is the only video that was removed from their channel. I thought I had downloaded a copy to my computer... but hey, proof from the Wayback Machine of its existence

                                _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #80

                                ⚠️ More shocking news! 🚨

                                Christine Lagarde and the European Central Bank have just migrated to #WSocial too!!!

                                (For context, see the beginning of this thread).

                                I'm at a loss for words today. Truly.

                                What a world.

                                If you missed my exposés on this controversial, problematic company, here they are:

                                🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  Dear Fedi friends,

                                  Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                                  The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                                  I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                                  My articles on them:

                                  🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                                  Wow. Just wow.

                                  andycarolan@social.lolA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #81

                                  @_elena I'm sure I'm missing something, but why are they bothing with W Social when they have a Mastodon instance here? is there value that W Social adds that is impossible with Mastodon? @EUCommission

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    ⚠️ More shocking news! 🚨

                                    Christine Lagarde and the European Central Bank have just migrated to #WSocial too!!!

                                    (For context, see the beginning of this thread).

                                    I'm at a loss for words today. Truly.

                                    What a world.

                                    If you missed my exposés on this controversial, problematic company, here they are:

                                    🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

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                                    #82

                                    @_elena

                                    - I don't get why #wsocial and not #eurosky
                                    - Or even better, to bridge their #fediverse accounts with #bridgyfed

                                    The best thing I could find about this news, is to spread the concept of different federated servers, to the european people on #atproto
                                    They will see in action that an account they follow could simply migrate, and they could also

                                    cc @hpod16

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      ⚠️ More shocking news! 🚨

                                      Christine Lagarde and the European Central Bank have just migrated to #WSocial too!!!

                                      (For context, see the beginning of this thread).

                                      I'm at a loss for words today. Truly.

                                      What a world.

                                      If you missed my exposés on this controversial, problematic company, here they are:

                                      🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

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                                      #83

                                      @_elena @HennaVirkkunen can we do something about this #WSocial drama ?

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        ⚠️ More shocking news! 🚨

                                        Christine Lagarde and the European Central Bank have just migrated to #WSocial too!!!

                                        (For context, see the beginning of this thread).

                                        I'm at a loss for words today. Truly.

                                        What a world.

                                        If you missed my exposés on this controversial, problematic company, here they are:

                                        🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

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                                        tokeriis@helvede.net
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                                        #84

                                        @_elena So W"social" have around… 300 users by now. 😂

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