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  • jmax@mastodon.socialJ jmax@mastodon.social

    @thirstybear Also, fire does have constructive uses. Not so LLMs.

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    #8

    @jmax

    @thirstybear I think they mean machine learning, not llms

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    • yugthebug@mastodon.socialY yugthebug@mastodon.social

      @jmax

      @thirstybear I think they mean machine learning, not llms

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      #9

      @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear

      LLMs are like AN/FO explosive when compared to most uses of machine learning style fire.

      "You object to me blowing up your house but I see you using a gas stove."

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      • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

        A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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        #10

        @thirstybear Ban fire, of course!

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        • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

          A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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          #11

          @thirstybear Ah, thanks for sharing it. I found the quote on Bsky and shared it over there.

          https://bsky.app/profile/scalzi.com/post/3mj6q3pdblc2y

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          • triptilt@mastoart.socialT triptilt@mastoart.social

            @thirstybear
            why plural? and why is he not on mastodon??? 🙂

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            #12

            @TripTilt @thirstybear He is: @scalzi

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            • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

              A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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              #13

              @thirstybear very aptly put!

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              • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

                A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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                #14

                @thirstybear I enjoyed his book about the accidental supervillain! What else of his should I read next?

                delilahtech@tech.lgbtD allanb@mastodon.socialA noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN 3 Replies Last reply
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                • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

                  A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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                  #15

                  @thirstybear in my long quest to find AI any use, I found "one shot usage programs". So you generate them once. They do a thing by only running once, and then you never ever need them again. Especially you don't need to maintain them as you delete the program immediately after use.
                  That's a very specific use case. Security researchers do that.

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                  • dneary@mastodon.ieD dneary@mastodon.ie

                    @thirstybear I enjoyed his book about the accidental supervillain! What else of his should I read next?

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                    #16

                    @dneary
                    Redshirts, The Kaiju Preservation Society
                    @thirstybear

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                    • resuna@ohai.socialR resuna@ohai.social

                      @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear

                      LLMs are like AN/FO explosive when compared to most uses of machine learning style fire.

                      "You object to me blowing up your house but I see you using a gas stove."

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                      #17

                      @resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear You probably use an ML system every time you spend money - every transaction is fraud scored at some point, some multiple times.

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                      • dneary@mastodon.ieD dneary@mastodon.ie

                        @thirstybear I enjoyed his book about the accidental supervillain! What else of his should I read next?

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                        #18

                        @dneary @thirstybear The Old Man's War series is really good.

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                        • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

                          A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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                          #19

                          @thirstybear - and this assunes there is, in fact, legitimate uses for AI, which very muchremains to be proven...

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                          • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                            @thirstybear - and this assunes there is, in fact, legitimate uses for AI, which very muchremains to be proven...

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                            #20

                            JWcph, Radicalized By Decency It’s been very good foor the rapid spread if disinformation!

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                            • dneary@mastodon.ieD dneary@mastodon.ie

                              @thirstybear I enjoyed his book about the accidental supervillain! What else of his should I read next?

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                              #21

                              @dneary @thirstybear the Old Man's War series is pretty good

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                              • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

                                A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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                                #22

                                @thirstybear One problem with this analogy is that the people talking about the arson ring often suggest banning fire rather than stopping arsonists from misusing it and the only way to get them to focus on the arsonists starts with reminding them that fire can be useful.

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                                • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                                  @resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear You probably use an ML system every time you spend money - every transaction is fraud scored at some point, some multiple times.

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                                  #23

                                  @TimWardCam
                                  *Someone* (bank or payment processor) uses ML (edit: which are not LLMs) to check my transactions, not me and not (usually) the party I'm actively engaging with. What was your point?
                                  @resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear

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                                  • yugthebug@mastodon.socialY yugthebug@mastodon.social

                                    @jmax

                                    @thirstybear I think they mean machine learning, not llms

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                                    #24

                                    @yugthebug @thirstybear No. There are no commercial services that use anything except LLMs. The techbros really belive it's a universal solution.
                                    In the modern world, AI == LLM.

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                                    • scriptfanix@maly.ioS scriptfanix@maly.io

                                      @TimWardCam
                                      *Someone* (bank or payment processor) uses ML (edit: which are not LLMs) to check my transactions, not me and not (usually) the party I'm actively engaging with. What was your point?
                                      @resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear

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                                      #25

                                      @ScriptFanix @resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear That not all "AI" is LLM and not all non-LLM "AI" is evil. Many people here get that, but there are plenty who don't.

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                                      • scriptfanix@maly.ioS scriptfanix@maly.io

                                        @TimWardCam
                                        *Someone* (bank or payment processor) uses ML (edit: which are not LLMs) to check my transactions, not me and not (usually) the party I'm actively engaging with. What was your point?
                                        @resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear

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                                        #26

                                        @ScriptFanix @TimWardCam @resuna @yugthebug @thirstybear If you use the term AI in modern language, you're talking about LLMs. Part of the scam is to pretend that they are synonyms, and they've won that fight.

                                        You're helping with the con by continuing to refer to actual useful technologies as "AI".

                                        Scalzi meant AI in the colloquial sense of LLMs. Stop playing "well actually" games that only benefit con artists.

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                                        • delilahtech@tech.lgbtD delilahtech@tech.lgbt

                                          @dneary
                                          Redshirts, The Kaiju Preservation Society
                                          @thirstybear

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                                          #27

                                          @DelilahTech @dneary Another vote for Kaiju Preservation Society here. I’m new to the author so playing catchup, but everyone mentions the Old Man’s War series.

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