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  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

    A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

    We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

    Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

    And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

    petrikas@mastodon.artP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #65

    @EUCommission What safeguards are there that prevent W from enshitifying?

    What prevents W from taking the same path that Twitter did?

    Based on their own description:
    "It is built by a pan-European team of experienced entrepreneurs and investors from the media, technology, and AI sectors."

    What safeguards are there to prevent the eventual data-harvest to feed the LLM models, that happened with social mediums such as Reddit?

    I don't see any features that make W better than Mastodon

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    • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

      @EUCommission It's kind of crazy that Mastodon never got this kind of promotion and endorsement, unlike this 4 month old platform that came out of nowhere.

      amministratore@parrocchie.masto.hostA This user is from outside of this forum
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      amministratore@parrocchie.masto.host
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      #66

      @Gargron @EUCommission
      I thank you @Gargron this wonderful Mastodon technology, which allowed me to create the first Italian Catholic instance. Perhaps at the European Commission, only money matters. 🙏🏼

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      • fabiscafe@mstdn.socialF fabiscafe@mstdn.social

        @EUCommission drop AT proto. Otherwise lol, same shit again.

        lazarou@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #67

        @fabiscafe @EUCommission they want "Same Shit; But Euro Flag" it seems...

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        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

          A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

          We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

          Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

          And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

          jelu@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jelu@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jelu@mastodon.social
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          #68

          @EUCommission nope

          https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116764267869694589

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          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

            We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

            Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

            And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

            tassido@social.tchncs.deT This user is from outside of this forum
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            tassido@social.tchncs.de
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            #69

            @EUCommission Disgusting.

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            • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

              @EUCommission It's kind of crazy that Mastodon never got this kind of promotion and endorsement, unlike this 4 month old platform that came out of nowhere.

              bene@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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              bene@fosstodon.org
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              #70

              @Gargron @EUCommission Mastodon doesn't have 80 VC capitalists, ordering people to promote it, I guess.

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              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                naturemc@mastodon.online
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                #71

                @EUCommission I don't understand why the EU has choosen another tech bro walled garden with closed protocol, for-profit. I can only explain it to myself with the extreme lobbyism by W since Davos. How can you join their marketing blabla? What about the EU and open data /open source?

                You won't find me there. And don't spend our tax money for these for-profit guys!

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                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  Whether here on our Mastodon server, or on ATproto with new W profile 👉 @ec.europa.eu – we look forward to staying connected with you.

                  ℹ️ http://wsocial.eu/

                  portugalense@masto.ptP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  portugalense@masto.pt
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #72

                  @EUCommission
                  https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116764267869694589

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                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    Whether here on our Mastodon server, or on ATproto with new W profile 👉 @ec.europa.eu – we look forward to staying connected with you.

                    ℹ️ http://wsocial.eu/

                    jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    jan@social.dytrych.cloud
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                    #73

                    @EUCommission no thanks! WSocial is closed BlueSky, @elena have you seen this post? ⬆️

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                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                      We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                      Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                      And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                      frisk@woof.techF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      frisk@woof.tech
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #74

                      @EUCommission If EU Commission migrating their Bluesky account to W Social isn't a perfect example showing how European Commission has been captured by corporate interests then I don't know what is. To someone increasingly interested in democratic systems, it's so obvious to see just that. Disappointed is to say nothing.

                      siwek@social.tooinconsistent.comS 1 Reply Last reply
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                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                        A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                        We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                        Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                        And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                        templailloahi@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        templailloahi@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #75

                        @EUCommission I can't wait until it's hacked next week and all the politicians' IDs are leaked.

                        Or, even more likely, that they aren't because they didn't have to provide it unlike us peasants.

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                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                          We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                          Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                          And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                          lazarou@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          lazarou@mastodon.social
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                          #76

                          @EUCommission

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                          • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                            @EUCommission how bizarre to be promoting a random VC-funded social network when you've barely put the same effort into promoting Mastodon. This has a shady feeling to it.

                            leonieke@squilla.vitaulium.euL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            leonieke@squilla.vitaulium.eu
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #77

                            @Gina @EUCommission Yeah, it feels as if a particular lobby/company is pushing to do a "wij van WC-eend" with their platform.

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                            • delafin@climatejustice.socialD delafin@climatejustice.social

                              @EUCommission No thanks: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                              naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              naturemc@mastodon.online
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #78

                              @delafin @EUCommission I also wanted to recommend the important work by @_elena !

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                              • aadschippers@mastodon.socialA aadschippers@mastodon.social

                                @EUCommission No thanks, I'm not even remotely interested in joining yet another for profit startup.

                                What @aral says: (source https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/)

                                aral@mastodon.ar.alA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                aral@mastodon.ar.al
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                                #79

                                @aadschippers @EUCommission Alt text: Screenshot of @_elena’s article on W Social (detail):

                                “Balkan then addressed the issue of identity verification - which is required by W Social:

                                It's very concerning - but again, not surprising - to see folks from the European Commission jumping on this particular bandwagon. Especially given the commission's push for identity verification (under the guise of age verification - as lobbied for by Meta) and W Social's plans to make identity verification a core part of their system. My fear is that W Social is just another for-profit Big Tech startup that happens to be based in the EU. We don't need that. We don't need more European surveillance capitalists and people farmers. We need ethical alternatives working for the common good.”

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                                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                  A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                  We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                  Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                  And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                  drjlecter@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  drjlecter@beige.party
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #80

                                  @EUCommission how does any of what you said fit with ID requirements and closed source? Ah yes. The first step to age verification and surveillance. Got it.

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                                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                    A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                    We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                    Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                    And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                    devnull@mamot.frD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    devnull@mamot.fr
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #81

                                    @EUCommission No thanks, I wouldn't touch a proprietary, for-profit, VC-funded, surveillance capitalism, "social-media" just because you wrongly claim it's "open ecosystem"

                                    It's so toxic by design I wouldn't even approach it wearing level A Personal Protective Equipment…

                                    Let alone the fact it was named after Musk's nazi bar "X"… 🤮

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                                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                      We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                      Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                      And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                      oli@social.tchncs.deO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      oli@social.tchncs.de
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #82

                                      @EUCommission
                                      Just like waltzing into the public neighbourhood library to tell people to buy on Amazon.

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                                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                        A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                        We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                        Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                        And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

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                                        ati1@mastodon.social
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                                        #83

                                        @EUCommission How's "W" supposed to be an "open ecosystem"? Isn't it closed source software operated by a commercial company that can do whatever it wants with that platform for profit? Sell it, change rules, become people farm? bot farm? etc? " Share Twitter scenario" to put it that way?

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                                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                          A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                          We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                          Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                          And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                          jdrm@social.linux.pizzaJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          jdrm@social.linux.pizza
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #84

                                          @EUCommission LOL no!

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