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  • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

    @Kuchenschwarte "Why are emojis standardly not animated?" - a complicated question. The Unicode standard lists a code point for each emoji (and other symbols, too), as well as, roughly, its meaning (really a short name). You can see the full list below. E.g., codepoint "U+1F601" corresponds to "beaming face with smiling eyes" or ๐Ÿ˜ .
    You can think of the look of that emoji on your individual platform as a kind of "font" - the platforms are free to implement the look of each emoji according to their house style. This is similar to the character "A" looking different in different newspapers, platforms, or styles. In most Western platforms emojis so far are not animated. But in many widely used Chinese platforms (WeChat and especially Weibo, for example), many emojis are animated. So I guess it's a question of style. #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

    https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html

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    #20

    @tschfflr @skyglowberlin @Kuchenschwarte I wonder if having animated versions could be like changing fonts ?

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    • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

      "which emojis are used the least often?" - Great question, and we rarely find data on this! But luckily, we studied this at least for two corpora with German users (and admittedly only for face emojis). So: Many object or symbol emojis (from the "tail end" of the emoji list) are very, very rarely used. Overall, faces and hearts are the most frequent. Among the face emojis, we compiled the full list of usages from a huge Twitter corpus (semi-public communication, 2014-2022) and a much small WhatsApp chat corpus (private or group communication). You can find the frequencies in this table linked below (and sort by frequency by clicking on the column). The least frequent face emoji in the large corpus was the "frowning face with open mouth" ๐Ÿ˜ฆ, which most people have never seen before. Personally, I think it's pretty ambiguous and not very useful, as there are better emojis for anything it might express. #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay
      https://tscheffler.github.io/2024-Face-Emoji-Norming/ratings.html

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      #21

      "what about double meanings like in ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿฅฆ and ๐Ÿ‘?" - Ah yes, these ambiguities are very famous. In order to get a new emoji approved nowadays, it's even helpful to be able to point out additional meanings and usages that are metaphorical in this way. The Unicode consortium is wary of introducing too many new emojis, and so those that can "carry more weight" and fill many needs at once are preferred.
      In internet corpora the vegetable-related uses of these emojis are probably quite rare (but I must admit I haven't checked yet) - and the metaphorical meanings probably dominate. Though there are also many insider uses of emojis that aren't super widely known outside of their circle. This is comparable to other kinds of linguistic codes or innovations (e.g. in youth language) and not limited to only emojis. #WorldEmojiDay #emojis #linguistics

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      • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

        "which emojis are used the least often?" - Great question, and we rarely find data on this! But luckily, we studied this at least for two corpora with German users (and admittedly only for face emojis). So: Many object or symbol emojis (from the "tail end" of the emoji list) are very, very rarely used. Overall, faces and hearts are the most frequent. Among the face emojis, we compiled the full list of usages from a huge Twitter corpus (semi-public communication, 2014-2022) and a much small WhatsApp chat corpus (private or group communication). You can find the frequencies in this table linked below (and sort by frequency by clicking on the column). The least frequent face emoji in the large corpus was the "frowning face with open mouth" ๐Ÿ˜ฆ, which most people have never seen before. Personally, I think it's pretty ambiguous and not very useful, as there are better emojis for anything it might express. #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay
        https://tscheffler.github.io/2024-Face-Emoji-Norming/ratings.html

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        #22

        @tschfflr Can I say that in the olden days of ye twitter there was an account featuring the least used emojis? And of course there were people trying to upvote their favourites. I admit I always supported the cable car emoji (whimsical )

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        • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

          "what about double meanings like in ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿฅฆ and ๐Ÿ‘?" - Ah yes, these ambiguities are very famous. In order to get a new emoji approved nowadays, it's even helpful to be able to point out additional meanings and usages that are metaphorical in this way. The Unicode consortium is wary of introducing too many new emojis, and so those that can "carry more weight" and fill many needs at once are preferred.
          In internet corpora the vegetable-related uses of these emojis are probably quite rare (but I must admit I haven't checked yet) - and the metaphorical meanings probably dominate. Though there are also many insider uses of emojis that aren't super widely known outside of their circle. This is comparable to other kinds of linguistic codes or innovations (e.g. in youth language) and not limited to only emojis. #WorldEmojiDay #emojis #linguistics

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          #23

          @tschfflr thanks for doing this, all this us super interesting!

          Do you know of any unexpected pattern of emoji usage? For example I'd expect younger folks to use emoji more than older folks and private communication to use it more than business... But maybe my assumptions are wrong or there is something else interesting?

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          • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

            "what about double meanings like in ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿฅฆ and ๐Ÿ‘?" - Ah yes, these ambiguities are very famous. In order to get a new emoji approved nowadays, it's even helpful to be able to point out additional meanings and usages that are metaphorical in this way. The Unicode consortium is wary of introducing too many new emojis, and so those that can "carry more weight" and fill many needs at once are preferred.
            In internet corpora the vegetable-related uses of these emojis are probably quite rare (but I must admit I haven't checked yet) - and the metaphorical meanings probably dominate. Though there are also many insider uses of emojis that aren't super widely known outside of their circle. This is comparable to other kinds of linguistic codes or innovations (e.g. in youth language) and not limited to only emojis. #WorldEmojiDay #emojis #linguistics

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            #24

            Do young and old people interpret (or use) emojis differently? - Yes, to some extent. Actually with most emojis we see a huge overlap in interpretation and also use. But there are some frequent emojis which are, on average, interpreted differently by older and younger people in our studies. For example, the slighly smiling face ๐Ÿ™‚ and its upside down variant ๐Ÿ™ƒ are seen as more positive by older participants, while the little dot-eyes are seen as cold and not authentic ("psychopath eyes") by younger people. Similarly, the winking smiley ๐Ÿ˜‰ is used by the older group to mark any jokes or fun (similarly to the original ๐Ÿ˜‰ emoticon), and younger people find it often completely inappropriate and sexually suggestive #emojis #WorldEmojiDay #linguistics

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            • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

              ๐Ÿง #AMA on #emojis for #WorldEmojiDay โ— #linguistics

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              #25

              @tschfflr So many questions but I first need time to read your excellent posts.

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              • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                Do young and old people interpret (or use) emojis differently? - Yes, to some extent. Actually with most emojis we see a huge overlap in interpretation and also use. But there are some frequent emojis which are, on average, interpreted differently by older and younger people in our studies. For example, the slighly smiling face ๐Ÿ™‚ and its upside down variant ๐Ÿ™ƒ are seen as more positive by older participants, while the little dot-eyes are seen as cold and not authentic ("psychopath eyes") by younger people. Similarly, the winking smiley ๐Ÿ˜‰ is used by the older group to mark any jokes or fun (similarly to the original ๐Ÿ˜‰ emoticon), and younger people find it often completely inappropriate and sexually suggestive #emojis #WorldEmojiDay #linguistics

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                #26

                "Do you know of any unexpected pattern of emoji usage? For example I'd expect younger folks to use emoji more than older folks and private communication to use it more than business... But maybe my assumptions are wrong or there is something else interesting?" - Yes generally our studies show that younger ppl use emojis more than older (and women a bit more than men). But in class with my undergraduates, they recently often tell me "I don't use emojis at all". I must say I don't fully believe them (maybe they don't even notice all the little hearts anymore?) and I haven't been able to show this in studies, but it's an interesting anecdotal data point I'd like to know more about!
                Also, a student of mine recently asked teenagers (13 and 16yos) about their emoji interpretations. And surprisingly to us, these almost entirely match the data we already have for adults. Even for some like ๐Ÿ™ƒ and ๐Ÿ˜‰ that I thought were changing (and just told you that younger people see them differently ๐Ÿ˜ฌ). So that was a bit weird to me ๐Ÿ˜… #emojis #WorldEmojiDay #linguistics

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                • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                  "Do you know of any unexpected pattern of emoji usage? For example I'd expect younger folks to use emoji more than older folks and private communication to use it more than business... But maybe my assumptions are wrong or there is something else interesting?" - Yes generally our studies show that younger ppl use emojis more than older (and women a bit more than men). But in class with my undergraduates, they recently often tell me "I don't use emojis at all". I must say I don't fully believe them (maybe they don't even notice all the little hearts anymore?) and I haven't been able to show this in studies, but it's an interesting anecdotal data point I'd like to know more about!
                  Also, a student of mine recently asked teenagers (13 and 16yos) about their emoji interpretations. And surprisingly to us, these almost entirely match the data we already have for adults. Even for some like ๐Ÿ™ƒ and ๐Ÿ˜‰ that I thought were changing (and just told you that younger people see them differently ๐Ÿ˜ฌ). So that was a bit weird to me ๐Ÿ˜… #emojis #WorldEmojiDay #linguistics

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                  #27

                  @tschfflr thank you ๐Ÿ’š

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                  • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                    "Do you know of any unexpected pattern of emoji usage? For example I'd expect younger folks to use emoji more than older folks and private communication to use it more than business... But maybe my assumptions are wrong or there is something else interesting?" - Yes generally our studies show that younger ppl use emojis more than older (and women a bit more than men). But in class with my undergraduates, they recently often tell me "I don't use emojis at all". I must say I don't fully believe them (maybe they don't even notice all the little hearts anymore?) and I haven't been able to show this in studies, but it's an interesting anecdotal data point I'd like to know more about!
                    Also, a student of mine recently asked teenagers (13 and 16yos) about their emoji interpretations. And surprisingly to us, these almost entirely match the data we already have for adults. Even for some like ๐Ÿ™ƒ and ๐Ÿ˜‰ that I thought were changing (and just told you that younger people see them differently ๐Ÿ˜ฌ). So that was a bit weird to me ๐Ÿ˜… #emojis #WorldEmojiDay #linguistics

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                    #28

                    Does being an emoji researcher make me more wary to use them - like am I watching my emoji use all the time? - I'd say the opposite is true, I feel more free and whimsical in using emojis, as I see them all the time in different contexts, and I can easily pretend to just use them ironically or "for work" ๐Ÿคฉ #emojis #linguistics #worldEmojiDay

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                    • kuchenschwarte@fnordon.deK kuchenschwarte@fnordon.de

                      @tschfflr what about double meanings like in ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿฅฆ and ๐Ÿ‘?

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                      #29

                      @tschfflr or probably one meaning - but not exactly the one intended... ๐Ÿ˜…

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                      • kuchenschwarte@fnordon.deK kuchenschwarte@fnordon.de

                        @tschfflr or probably one meaning - but not exactly the one intended... ๐Ÿ˜…

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                        #30

                        @Kuchenschwarte ๐Ÿคญ

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                        • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                          ๐Ÿง #AMA on #emojis for #WorldEmojiDay โ— #linguistics

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                          #31

                          @tschfflr is there (still) a lot of use of "signage" emojis like ๐Ÿช or even more abstract ๐Ÿ›…?

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                          • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                            @Kuchenschwarte "Why are emojis standardly not animated?" - a complicated question. The Unicode standard lists a code point for each emoji (and other symbols, too), as well as, roughly, its meaning (really a short name). You can see the full list below. E.g., codepoint "U+1F601" corresponds to "beaming face with smiling eyes" or ๐Ÿ˜ .
                            You can think of the look of that emoji on your individual platform as a kind of "font" - the platforms are free to implement the look of each emoji according to their house style. This is similar to the character "A" looking different in different newspapers, platforms, or styles. In most Western platforms emojis so far are not animated. But in many widely used Chinese platforms (WeChat and especially Weibo, for example), many emojis are animated. So I guess it's a question of style. #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

                            https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html

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                            #32

                            @tschfflr @Kuchenschwarte Google has a set of animated emoji, and their designer has written about the unique design challenges
                            https://googlefonts.github.io/noto-emoji-animation/ https://jenniferdaniel.substack.com/p/emoji-that-can-dance

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                            • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                              Does being an emoji researcher make me more wary to use them - like am I watching my emoji use all the time? - I'd say the opposite is true, I feel more free and whimsical in using emojis, as I see them all the time in different contexts, and I can easily pretend to just use them ironically or "for work" ๐Ÿคฉ #emojis #linguistics #worldEmojiDay

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                              #33

                              Is emoji interpretation just a "fun" summer topic, or does emoji misinterpretation ever become serious, like in court discussions? - In face there have been several cases both in North America and Europe where emoji meanings were negotiated in court! I keep a collection of them because it's a nice intersection with my alter ego, the "forensic" linguist. For example, in cases from Canada and Bavaria, judges had to decide whether a thumbs-up ๐Ÿ‘ in a chat was meant as a signal of agreement (to a contract or contract amendment), or whether (like the senders argued) it constituted only an acknowledgement of receipt of the message. In both cases, the context was super important - how did the parties interact before, what else was said in the chat, etc. Interesting! #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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                              • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                                Is emoji interpretation just a "fun" summer topic, or does emoji misinterpretation ever become serious, like in court discussions? - In face there have been several cases both in North America and Europe where emoji meanings were negotiated in court! I keep a collection of them because it's a nice intersection with my alter ego, the "forensic" linguist. For example, in cases from Canada and Bavaria, judges had to decide whether a thumbs-up ๐Ÿ‘ in a chat was meant as a signal of agreement (to a contract or contract amendment), or whether (like the senders argued) it constituted only an acknowledgement of receipt of the message. In both cases, the context was super important - how did the parties interact before, what else was said in the chat, etc. Interesting! #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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                                #34

                                "is there (still) a lot of use of "signage" emojis like ๐Ÿช or even more abstract ๐Ÿ›…?" - These complex ones are not so frequently used. BUT emojis are often used for signs in real life (= meat world, not digitally). I have a huge collection of photos I put together with the help of students. I think emojis are particularly good for this because such signs are often about rules, what we're not allowed to do or supposed to do. And emojis "soften" this face-threat (being told what to do) a bit, by being cute and colorful and generally perceived as positive. #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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                                • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                                  ๐Ÿง #AMA on #emojis for #WorldEmojiDay โ— #linguistics

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                                  #35

                                  @tschfflr love the thread! Do you think emojis will ever become part of formal language? Are we going to see emojis in laws or letters from the pension fund?

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                                  • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                                    โ˜๏ธ However, there is some evidence that #emojis or at least symbols similar to emoticons were used before the internet. Many people know "rebus" examples where words are replaced by little icons like in this children's book. And I've seen an example of a hand-written letter with emoji-like faces as annotations (but I can't find it right now on my computer ๐Ÿ˜ฌ ) #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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                                    #36

                                    @tschfflr Interessant, dass es "Eichkรคtzchen" sagt. Dieses Wort kannte ich bisher nur im Dialekt, aus sรผdlicherer Region.

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                                    • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                                      ๐Ÿง #AMA on #emojis for #WorldEmojiDay โ— #linguistics

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                                      #37

                                      @tschfflr If you were an emoji, what emoji would you be and why? ๐Ÿง

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                                      • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                                        Two other writing systems are often compared to #emojis: #Chinese characters and #hieroglyphs. @Kuchenschwarte
                                        I'm not really an expert on either, but I did study Chinese in university and recently had a long conversation with an Egyptologist colleague (who gave me the 101 on hieroglyphs ๐Ÿ˜„ ). Egyptian hieroglyphic writing was an alphabet (ie, each character roughly corresponds to a sound like p, t, k). So while the hieroglyphs resemble objects, they were not read as such, at least not in the later stages. (Btw. Latin characters also developed from picture-like objects in many cases, but it's been a long time since these pictures were recognizable)
                                        Thus, emojis do not resemble Egyptian hieroglyphs in my view - each emoji corresponds most closely to a word or concept, not a single letter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_hieroglyphs #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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                                        #38

                                        @tschfflr Speaking of writing systems and emoji, based on how sign language users would sketch when taking notes for a signed presentation or planning their own, Michael Filhol proposed a notation for sign utterances that focuses on semantics rather than phonology. It involves the use of emoji-like elements for semantic concepts that can then be slotted into relational structures, (all of which can then be converted into an established formalism for Avatar-based outputs, too).
                                        Source: https://www.sign-lang.uni-hamburg.de/lrec/pub/24016.html

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                                        • marcschulder@fediscience.orgM marcschulder@fediscience.org

                                          @tschfflr Speaking of writing systems and emoji, based on how sign language users would sketch when taking notes for a signed presentation or planning their own, Michael Filhol proposed a notation for sign utterances that focuses on semantics rather than phonology. It involves the use of emoji-like elements for semantic concepts that can then be slotted into relational structures, (all of which can then be converted into an established formalism for Avatar-based outputs, too).
                                          Source: https://www.sign-lang.uni-hamburg.de/lrec/pub/24016.html

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                                          #39

                                          @MarcSchulder cool!

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