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i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

    lykso@tiny.tilde.websiteL This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #30

    @eniko I want small chunks of well-specified code with machine supported proofs so I can be certain of my program's actual behavior across its whole domain.

    I should probably just learn Ada/SPARK or Idris already.

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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

      travisfw@fosstodon.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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      travisfw@fosstodon.org
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      #31

      @eniko i'm working on it

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      • meaningfulbits@mastodon.socialM meaningfulbits@mastodon.social

        @eniko don't forget to add doesn't require an always on Internet connection.

        travisfw@fosstodon.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #32

        @MeaningfulBits @eniko should be illegal to call it an "app" if it does.
        Maybe call it a "shim" instead.

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        • kirtai@tech.lgbtK kirtai@tech.lgbt

          @me @badtux @eniko
          It's like building on quicksand.

          me@social.jlamothe.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #33
          @kirtai @badtux @eniko Right?
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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

            kaneel@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #34

            @eniko me too me too.

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            • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

              @me @eniko And every fifteen minutes there is a new Java release that fixes a thousand security holes and adds a thousand new features to bloat up the runtime. Meanwhile my "C" programs from the early 1990s still compile and run just fine.

              me@social.jlamothe.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #35
              @badtux @eniko I'm so glad I don't typically work in Java.
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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                adriencater@mastodon.onlineA This user is from outside of this forum
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                adriencater@mastodon.online
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #36

                @eniko in many cases i’d be willing to pay *more* for this approach.

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                  zlatko@social.zlatko.devZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  zlatko@social.zlatko.dev
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #37

                  @eniko and none of this broken shit

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                  • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                    @eniko But then the boss would have fewer people to manage, and be unable to justify his job. Most software changes are about employment for engineers, not necessity. Grr.

                    As a software engineer I want computer languages and frameworks that stay stable for decades rather than have a new release every year that obsoletes old programs and requires a rewrite. But I don't get to have that :(.

                    #software #softwaredevelopment

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                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #38

                    @badtux @eniko Maybe that's the appeal of VBA? I never made the move from VB6 to VB.net, so no idea how stable that is. VBA seems to keep on trucking as it is.

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                      rhempel@cosocial.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      rhempel@cosocial.ca
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #39

                      @eniko If you are asking for less you are asking too much 😉

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                      • me@social.jlamothe.netM me@social.jlamothe.net
                        @badtux @eniko I'm so glad I don't typically work in Java.
                        badtux@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #40

                        @me @eniko Substitute any other language or framework in large scale use for Java. Go? Rust? JavaScript/TypeScript? Even where the language is stable the frameworks you have to use to get work done are as firm as gelatin.

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                          #41

                          @eniko and at the same time, companies hire people who prefer AI, f̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶agile; or as the saying goes, seniors with salary of a junior 🙂

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                            archivescribe@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            archivescribe@mastodon.social
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                            #42

                            @eniko The dream that we deserve!

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                            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                              durandal@oldbytes.spaceD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #43

                              @eniko I picked up Tinystart for the Mac by @nileane which is probably exactly the sort of thing you’re after. It’s as useful as Raycast but without all the VC and AI bollocks, and only costs a fiver.

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                #44

                                @eniko bring back rating code by size.

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                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #45

                                  @eniko

                                  The general rule of thumb seems to be: The further you go back in time, the better the products, be they online or offline.

                                  All courtesy of the fucked-up neoliberal capitalism that's festering across the whole world.

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                                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                                    renardboy@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #46

                                    @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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                                    • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

                                      @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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                                      #47

                                      @eniko As a matter of fact I want this to be the de facto approach to how we make new things but sometimes when I say this people think I mean stuff like woodworking and blacksmithing which, yes, but also computers, and phones, and bicycles electric and acoustic, and everything else.

                                      I want *everything* to be made by people who have cause to take pride in their work.

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                                      • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                                        @kirtai @eniko That said the C programs I wrote in the early 90s still compile fine today

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                                        #48

                                        @badtux @eniko
                                        Yeah, but I've seen some that modern C compilers absolutely hate, such as gnu smalltalk.

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                                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                                          brouhaha@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          brouhaha@mastodon.social
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #49

                                          @eniko
                                          I like small programs and I cannot lie.

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