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i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

    travisfw@fosstodon.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #31

    @eniko i'm working on it

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    • meaningfulbits@mastodon.socialM meaningfulbits@mastodon.social

      @eniko don't forget to add doesn't require an always on Internet connection.

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      #32

      @MeaningfulBits @eniko should be illegal to call it an "app" if it does.
      Maybe call it a "shim" instead.

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      • kirtai@tech.lgbtK kirtai@tech.lgbt

        @me @badtux @eniko
        It's like building on quicksand.

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        #33
        @kirtai @badtux @eniko Right?
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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

          kaneel@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #34

          @eniko me too me too.

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          • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

            @me @eniko And every fifteen minutes there is a new Java release that fixes a thousand security holes and adds a thousand new features to bloat up the runtime. Meanwhile my "C" programs from the early 1990s still compile and run just fine.

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            #35
            @badtux @eniko I'm so glad I don't typically work in Java.
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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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              #36

              @eniko in many cases i’d be willing to pay *more* for this approach.

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                zlatko@social.zlatko.devZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #37

                @eniko and none of this broken shit

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                • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                  @eniko But then the boss would have fewer people to manage, and be unable to justify his job. Most software changes are about employment for engineers, not necessity. Grr.

                  As a software engineer I want computer languages and frameworks that stay stable for decades rather than have a new release every year that obsoletes old programs and requires a rewrite. But I don't get to have that :(.

                  #software #softwaredevelopment

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                  #38

                  @badtux @eniko Maybe that's the appeal of VBA? I never made the move from VB6 to VB.net, so no idea how stable that is. VBA seems to keep on trucking as it is.

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                    #39

                    @eniko If you are asking for less you are asking too much 😉

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                    • me@social.jlamothe.netM me@social.jlamothe.net
                      @badtux @eniko I'm so glad I don't typically work in Java.
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                      #40

                      @me @eniko Substitute any other language or framework in large scale use for Java. Go? Rust? JavaScript/TypeScript? Even where the language is stable the frameworks you have to use to get work done are as firm as gelatin.

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                        #41

                        @eniko and at the same time, companies hire people who prefer AI, f̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶agile; or as the saying goes, seniors with salary of a junior 🙂

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                          #42

                          @eniko The dream that we deserve!

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                            #43

                            @eniko I picked up Tinystart for the Mac by @nileane which is probably exactly the sort of thing you’re after. It’s as useful as Raycast but without all the VC and AI bollocks, and only costs a fiver.

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                            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                              #44

                              @eniko bring back rating code by size.

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                                #45

                                @eniko

                                The general rule of thumb seems to be: The further you go back in time, the better the products, be they online or offline.

                                All courtesy of the fucked-up neoliberal capitalism that's festering across the whole world.

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                                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #46

                                  @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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                                  • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

                                    @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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                                    #47

                                    @eniko As a matter of fact I want this to be the de facto approach to how we make new things but sometimes when I say this people think I mean stuff like woodworking and blacksmithing which, yes, but also computers, and phones, and bicycles electric and acoustic, and everything else.

                                    I want *everything* to be made by people who have cause to take pride in their work.

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                                    • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                                      @kirtai @eniko That said the C programs I wrote in the early 90s still compile fine today

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                                      #48

                                      @badtux @eniko
                                      Yeah, but I've seen some that modern C compilers absolutely hate, such as gnu smalltalk.

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                        #49

                                        @eniko
                                        I like small programs and I cannot lie.

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                                        • kirtai@tech.lgbtK kirtai@tech.lgbt

                                          @me @badtux @eniko
                                          It's like building on quicksand.

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                                          #50

                                          @kirtai @me @badtux @eniko b.b..b
                                          ..but surely quicksand would make building even quicker? It's in the name, innit? 🤔

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