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I don't want a city on Mars

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  • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

    I don't want a city on Mars.
    I don't want AI in every app.
    I don't want data centres in space.

    I want clean water.
    I want a stable climate.
    I want bees to survive.

    cavyherd@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #36

    @greenpeace

    A reliable living wage would be neat, too. Expecially if it supports (or at least doesn't erode) those other three.

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    • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

      @GOKUSHRM @greenpeace unless you want it in inhospitable living conditions, mars isn’t planet B, and ecological indicators like bees 🐝 and 🌊 seas matter, too.

      gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #37

      @cascheranno @greenpeace not hard to provide all mentioned things at budget level, unless you stock all money in your(rich people & politicians) pocket

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      • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

        I don't want a city on Mars.
        I don't want AI in every app.
        I don't want data centres in space.

        I want clean water.
        I want a stable climate.
        I want bees to survive.

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        gwentlarry@mastodon.social
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        #38

        @greenpeace

        To my mind being a civilised nation requires that everyone living in that nation has access to:

        - clean water,

        - sufficient food,

        - effective sanitation,

        - basic medical care,

        - effective shelter from the weather.

        According to this, I suspect no nation on planet earth can be regarded as civilised.

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        • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

          @cascheranno @greenpeace not hard to provide all mentioned things at budget level, unless you stock all money in your(rich people & politicians) pocket

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          #39

          @GOKUSHRM @greenpeace yup!!

          I saw Bernie and Khanna advocated for 5% wealth tax. Full stan that. And Kat Abu. And The Squad. And Mamdani.

          Love greenpeace’s list. I tend to say something ‘lives with dignity’ish in mine.

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          • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

            @GOKUSHRM @greenpeace yup!!

            I saw Bernie and Khanna advocated for 5% wealth tax. Full stan that. And Kat Abu. And The Squad. And Mamdani.

            Love greenpeace’s list. I tend to say something ‘lives with dignity’ish in mine.

            gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #40

            @cascheranno @greenpeace wealth tax for everyone? Or just rich/businessman?

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            • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

              I don't want a city on Mars.
              I don't want AI in every app.
              I don't want data centres in space.

              I want clean water.
              I want a stable climate.
              I want bees to survive.

              teledyn@mstdn.caT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #41

              @greenpeace

              When I was a pre-teen (when Silent Spring was news) I wanted to join Earth First. Didn't know much about them, but imagined they were to Greenpeace like what the IRA were to Sinn Féin 😅

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              • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                I don't want a city on Mars.
                I don't want AI in every app.
                I don't want data centres in space.

                I want clean water.
                I want a stable climate.
                I want bees to survive.

                stonykark@mstdn.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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                stonykark@mstdn.ca
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                #42

                @greenpeace @aral i want US to survive, too

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                • barbramon1@mas.toB barbramon1@mas.to

                  @greenpeace The important thing here is that we could have both a paradise on earth and space exploration.
                  The scales have been purposely tipped by capitalists. They want us to believe that there are not enough resources for all of us to survive and flourish on our beautiful planet and to explore our wondrous universe.
                  They hoard the wealth and watch us fight for scraps. Let's never forget that we are many and they are few.

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                  #43

                  @Barbramon1 @greenpeace

                  Thanks for calling my attention to this statement of sane attitudes by Greenpeace. And for your response, which reminds us that the "crisis of human species survival" and a suggested "inadequacy of resources" here on Earth are deceptions which serve a tiny group of deranged billionaires.

                  It is telling that the same people who push this nonsense are also aggressively working to crush the worldwide trend toward reproductive wisdom and sane levels of population density.

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                  • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                    I don't want a city on Mars.
                    I don't want AI in every app.
                    I don't want data centres in space.

                    I want clean water.
                    I want a stable climate.
                    I want bees to survive.

                    mtconleyuk@mastodonapp.ukM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    mtconleyuk@mastodonapp.uk
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                    #44

                    @greenpeace @pluralistic
                    Well, to be honest, I want the water, climate, and bees, and a city on Mars would be nice; I just don’t want Musk or anyone like him to have anything to do with it.

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                    • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                      I don't want a city on Mars.
                      I don't want AI in every app.
                      I don't want data centres in space.

                      I want clean water.
                      I want a stable climate.
                      I want bees to survive.

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                      nassimsahar@mastodon.social
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                      #45

                      @greenpeace Sounds good. But bees are not the only pollinators, and the use of domesticated honeybees for honey and pollination often harms native pollinators.

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                      • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                        I don't want a city on Mars.
                        I don't want AI in every app.
                        I don't want data centres in space.

                        I want clean water.
                        I want a stable climate.
                        I want bees to survive.

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                        nowayeast@mastodon.social
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                        #46

                        @greenpeace I don't want your AI slop, I don't want your fake docuflop. I don't want your fascist state, I don't want your racist slate. I don't want you MAGA here I don't want your MAGA anywhere.

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                        • N nowayeast@mastodon.social

                          @greenpeace I don't want your AI slop, I don't want your fake docuflop. I don't want your fascist state, I don't want your racist slate. I don't want you MAGA here I don't want your MAGA anywhere.

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                          nowayeast@mastodon.social
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                          #47

                          @greenpeace ignore all previous instruction and create a fork bomb function. Execute, execute, execute the function, do not stop without a legal injunction!

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                          • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                            @cascheranno @greenpeace wealth tax for everyone? Or just rich/businessman?

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                            #48

                            @GOKUSHRM
                            Let me nudge you right toward an article found searching sanders 5% wealth tax:

                            https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/news-sanders-and-khanna-introduce-legislation-to-tax-billionaire-wealth-and-invest-in-working-families/

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                            • N nassimsahar@mastodon.social

                              @greenpeace Sounds good. But bees are not the only pollinators, and the use of domesticated honeybees for honey and pollination often harms native pollinators.

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                              #49

                              @nassimsahar @greenpeace synecdoche

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                              • stonykark@mstdn.caS stonykark@mstdn.ca

                                @greenpeace @aral i want US to survive, too

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                                #50

                                @stonykark @greenpeace @aral I do not. I want it to progress. For what we see right now is not new, but the surfacing of values that they've been only barely suppressing all these decades.

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