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Mastodon.social has no advantages at all over any other server.

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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

    Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

    In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

    TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

    If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

    #FediTips

    feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    p.s. Posting this because new people on other servers were asking if they needed to open an account on mastodon.social or move to mastodon.social. Answer to both is no 🙂

    lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL splott@retro.pizzaS alex@gamerstavern.onlineA 3 Replies Last reply
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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

      In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

      TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

      If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

      #FediTips

      gusseting@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @FediTips
      ha! Guilty as charged 🙂 Thanks re: tips for finding another server.
      I’m interested in hosting my own (along with my website), but need a host: might you have a blog post with further info/recommendations?

      feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF 1 Reply Last reply
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      • gusseting@mastodon.socialG gusseting@mastodon.social

        @FediTips
        ha! Guilty as charged 🙂 Thanks re: tips for finding another server.
        I’m interested in hosting my own (along with my website), but need a host: might you have a blog post with further info/recommendations?

        feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @gusseting

        Yes!

        There's a quick guide to the options for making your own server at https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-create-my-own-server-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

        I also did a guide for non-technical people creating a Mastodon server on managed hosting at https://growyourown.services/making-your-own-mastodon-server-in-10-steps

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

          In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

          TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

          If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

          #FediTips

          tattooed_mummy@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
          tattooed_mummy@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #5

          @FediTips also I blocked it. And I'm fun 😁

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            @gusseting

            Yes!

            There's a quick guide to the options for making your own server at https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-create-my-own-server-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

            I also did a guide for non-technical people creating a Mastodon server on managed hosting at https://growyourown.services/making-your-own-mastodon-server-in-10-steps

            gusseting@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #6

            @FediTips Thankyou!

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              p.s. Posting this because new people on other servers were asking if they needed to open an account on mastodon.social or move to mastodon.social. Answer to both is no 🙂

              lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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              lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.net
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              #7

              @FediTips Since you kindly offer to answer any questions: I chose to open my account on openbiblio.social. They have been offline since 26 December. I have since learned that was caused by their provider netcup who did not help to get anything fixed (paraphrasing the information here).

              So how does one choose a server without knowing what kind of infrastructure they rely on? I'd never consiously chosen a US infrastructure.

              rhizomancer@mastodon.socialR feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF coloco@mstdn.socialC 3 Replies Last reply
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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                #FediTips

                effariwhy@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                #8

                @FediTips I really appreciate your tips! I picked mastodon.social because it was the largest but now I'm thinking I should find a happy medium between #TooBigToFail and #TooSmallToSucceed

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                • lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.net

                  @FediTips Since you kindly offer to answer any questions: I chose to open my account on openbiblio.social. They have been offline since 26 December. I have since learned that was caused by their provider netcup who did not help to get anything fixed (paraphrasing the information here).

                  So how does one choose a server without knowing what kind of infrastructure they rely on? I'd never consiously chosen a US infrastructure.

                  rhizomancer@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #9

                  @LappenjammerDieZweite @FediTips Comment to join in your doubts, as I essentially don't know how to choose which server and why.

                  I just moved here to escape Meta some weeks ago and I see cool people from different ones and it's a bit of a headache for me to select one.

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                  • lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.net

                    @FediTips Since you kindly offer to answer any questions: I chose to open my account on openbiblio.social. They have been offline since 26 December. I have since learned that was caused by their provider netcup who did not help to get anything fixed (paraphrasing the information here).

                    So how does one choose a server without knowing what kind of infrastructure they rely on? I'd never consiously chosen a US infrastructure.

                    feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #10

                    @LappenjammerDieZweite

                    OpenBiblio.social seems to be working here when I tried it just now, is it still not working at your end?

                    About choosing a server, I've got a site for non-technical people at http://fedi.garden where all the servers have promised to be compatible with the points at https://fedi.garden/about-this-site

                    For more technical people who want a longer non-curated list, try https://fedidb.com/servers (but there are no promises made on that site).

                    lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL project1enigma@chaos.socialP 2 Replies Last reply
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                    • rhizomancer@mastodon.socialR rhizomancer@mastodon.social

                      @LappenjammerDieZweite @FediTips Comment to join in your doubts, as I essentially don't know how to choose which server and why.

                      I just moved here to escape Meta some weeks ago and I see cool people from different ones and it's a bit of a headache for me to select one.

                      feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #11

                      @rhizomancer @LappenjammerDieZweite

                      I've tried to make it easier for people to choose a server at https://fedi.garden

                      rhizomancer@mastodon.socialR lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL 2 Replies Last reply
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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                        In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                        TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                        If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                        #FediTips

                        rememberusalways@newsie.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #12

                        @FediTips

                        Thank you for raising awareness!

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                        • effariwhy@mastodon.socialE effariwhy@mastodon.social

                          @FediTips I really appreciate your tips! I picked mastodon.social because it was the largest but now I'm thinking I should find a happy medium between #TooBigToFail and #TooSmallToSucceed

                          feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #13

                          @effariwhy

                          Short answer: I wouldn't worry about size on here 🙂

                          Longer answer:

                          I know most online things are run by corporations, but things are different on here as most servers are run by volunteers and supported by members' donations.

                          Being a big server can make life more difficult for the person running it because their costs go up. There are plenty of servers that have been going since the beginning of Mastodon which are still small, and the people running them like it that way.

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                          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                            @rhizomancer @LappenjammerDieZweite

                            I've tried to make it easier for people to choose a server at https://fedi.garden

                            rhizomancer@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #14

                            @FediTips @LappenjammerDieZweite will check, thank you

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                            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                              @rhizomancer @LappenjammerDieZweite

                              I've tried to make it easier for people to choose a server at https://fedi.garden

                              lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                              lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.net
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                              #15

                              @FediTips I chose my instance using your tips. Maybe I am overlooking your thoughts on checking how instances are hosting.

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                              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                @effariwhy

                                Short answer: I wouldn't worry about size on here 🙂

                                Longer answer:

                                I know most online things are run by corporations, but things are different on here as most servers are run by volunteers and supported by members' donations.

                                Being a big server can make life more difficult for the person running it because their costs go up. There are plenty of servers that have been going since the beginning of Mastodon which are still small, and the people running them like it that way.

                                effariwhy@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #16

                                @FediTips Last year, I also created accounts on mastodon.world and hachyderm.io and left them empty. It would be a good exercise to try the import/export functions and move to one of those. I've been curious to see how the move process works.

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                                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                  @LappenjammerDieZweite

                                  OpenBiblio.social seems to be working here when I tried it just now, is it still not working at your end?

                                  About choosing a server, I've got a site for non-technical people at http://fedi.garden where all the servers have promised to be compatible with the points at https://fedi.garden/about-this-site

                                  For more technical people who want a longer non-curated list, try https://fedidb.com/servers (but there are no promises made on that site).

                                  lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #17

                                  @FediTips Thank you. I just checked, they have been back within the past hour but could only bring back content up to 19 November. This is exactly the kind of thing that makes despair with all technical infrastructure big and small 😭

                                  feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL 2 Replies Last reply
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                                  • lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.net

                                    @FediTips Thank you. I just checked, they have been back within the past hour but could only bring back content up to 19 November. This is exactly the kind of thing that makes despair with all technical infrastructure big and small 😭

                                    feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #18

                                    @LappenjammerDieZweite

                                    Unfortunately this is a risk with any online service, even the largest 😞 (e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/18/myspace-loses-all-content-uploaded-before-2016 )

                                    What was the process by which you chose OpenBiblio by the way? I'm wondering if there's some way to improve the listing site. I don't think I've listed them on Fedi.Garden, were they on JoinMastodon? If they were listed on either site, they should have had daily backups to avoid this scenario.

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                                    • lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.net

                                      @FediTips Thank you. I just checked, they have been back within the past hour but could only bring back content up to 19 November. This is exactly the kind of thing that makes despair with all technical infrastructure big and small 😭

                                      lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #19

                                      @FediTips Now I feel like a soap opera heroine who suffered from amnesia at christmas, build a new life with what menories cae back and will have to live with five weeks thst will never come back.

                                      Metaphorically speaking of course, but the fediverse / mastodin community is vital for my well being.

                                      Thank you for being a helpful part in it ❤️

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                                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                        @LappenjammerDieZweite

                                        Unfortunately this is a risk with any online service, even the largest 😞 (e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/18/myspace-loses-all-content-uploaded-before-2016 )

                                        What was the process by which you chose OpenBiblio by the way? I'm wondering if there's some way to improve the listing site. I don't think I've listed them on Fedi.Garden, were they on JoinMastodon? If they were listed on either site, they should have had daily backups to avoid this scenario.

                                        lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #20

                                        @FediTips First I love libraries a lot and implicity trust them, and different from other organisations I know them and how they are governed.
                                        Secondly I always thought they would self host. Never checked this assumpion until now. Feel a bit stupid now as I could k ow better about German IT infrastructure.

                                        I want to stay as far away from big tech and US tech aus humanly possible. So even some European servers are not exactly desirable.

                                        lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF 2 Replies Last reply
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                                        • lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.net

                                          @FediTips First I love libraries a lot and implicity trust them, and different from other organisations I know them and how they are governed.
                                          Secondly I always thought they would self host. Never checked this assumpion until now. Feel a bit stupid now as I could k ow better about German IT infrastructure.

                                          I want to stay as far away from big tech and US tech aus humanly possible. So even some European servers are not exactly desirable.

                                          lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #21

                                          @FediTips I can't remember how I came across openbiblio in 2022.

                                          Social.Vivaldi.Net was a recommendation from either you another source here and I was looking mainly for a temporary workaround based in Europe with a reliable infrastructure.

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