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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

    Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

    In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

    TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

    If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

    #FediTips

    regendans@todon.euR This user is from outside of this forum
    regendans@todon.euR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #48

    @FediTips 💯 Agree fully with your message.

    And if new users want to follow people on Meta's Threads then mastodon.social has the advantage that it is open to that. Unlike the many instances which block it. https://fedipact.online Though I imagine few new users would reason like that.

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      @project1enigma

      I've tried to build upon the wording on JoinMastodon, as many servers were already complying with that.

      But if any server tolerates antisemitism, ableism or other bigotry I will of course remove it from fedi.garden.

      project1enigma@chaos.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #49

      @FediTips I understand. Thanks.

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

        In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

        TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

        If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

        #FediTips

        cutesobri@cathode.churchC This user is from outside of this forum
        cutesobri@cathode.churchC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #50

        @FediTips
        by taking users i see how its not helping decenterization but they crash if they get to big for their mods and if we push for it we could get them to cut the sever away from the org that does dev stuff

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

          In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

          TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

          If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

          #FediTips

          michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM This user is from outside of this forum
          michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM This user is from outside of this forum
          michelpatrice@jasette.facil.services
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          #51

          @FediTips

          You say that you have over 200,000 followers and is on a single user server.

          What kind of server do you have? I mean, what kind of RAM and storage, if these are the relevant specs?

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            p.s. Posting this because new people on other servers were asking if they needed to open an account on mastodon.social or move to mastodon.social. Answer to both is no 🙂

            alex@gamerstavern.onlineA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #52

            @FediTips
            "Stay away from the voodoo. And Mastodon.social too"

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              @Frieke72

              You can transfer your followers, follows, bookmarks, lists, mutes, blocks and domain blocks.

              Your posts remain on the previous server, but they redirect people to your new account.

              More info on how to transfer at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

              stomata@procial.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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              stomata@procial.tchncs.de
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              #53

              @FediTips@social.growyourown.services @Frieke72@mastodon.social you can transfer your posts if you choose a Sharkey instance. You can import your posts if you want from Mastodon, misskey, akkoma, Twitter even facebook

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              • stomata@procial.tchncs.deS stomata@procial.tchncs.de

                @FediTips@social.growyourown.services @Frieke72@mastodon.social you can transfer your posts if you choose a Sharkey instance. You can import your posts if you want from Mastodon, misskey, akkoma, Twitter even facebook

                frieke72@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #54

                @Stomata Sharkey? Image of 🦈 flashes by....

                But this sounds great., now I've got to learn about instances 🤓 and see if mastodon.nl is one. Can you answer this @support ?

                @FediTips

                stomata@procial.tchncs.deS feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF 2 Replies Last reply
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                • frieke72@mastodon.socialF frieke72@mastodon.social

                  @Stomata Sharkey? Image of 🦈 flashes by....

                  But this sounds great., now I've got to learn about instances 🤓 and see if mastodon.nl is one. Can you answer this @support ?

                  @FediTips

                  stomata@procial.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #55

                  @Frieke72@mastodon.social @support@mastodon.nl @FediTips@social.growyourown.services Sharkey is a different software than Mastodon. But still talks to other fediverse platforms.
                  It comes with more modern and user friendly ui and features.
                  More info
                  https://joinsharkey.org

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                    In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                    TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                    If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                    #FediTips

                    myricagale@mastodon.scotM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    myricagale@mastodon.scot
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                    #56

                    @FediTips This was the reason I originally joined Mastodon.world when I first started on Mastodon about 5 years ago. Social was to big even then and there was guidance not to join it.
                    Since then (because of frequent 'outages' on .world) I moved to a local server (Mastodon.scot) - best move and easy enough to do!

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                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                      Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                      In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                      TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                      If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                      #FediTips

                      rfpatterson@mastodon.nzR This user is from outside of this forum
                      rfpatterson@mastodon.nzR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #57

                      @FediTips I am on mastodon.social but also on two other Mastodons and another #Fedi site. I seldom post on the big one. Does #FediTips want me to change anything?

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                        In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                        TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                        If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                        #FediTips

                        cathybikesbook@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                        cathybikesbook@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                        cathybikesbook@mastodon.social
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                        #58

                        @FediTips I was deciding between mastodon.social and mastodon.plus. ended up choosing mastodon social. I'm happy with my decision, although I am still relatively new here. I will say having all those different servers is confusing for new people. I remember when Mastodon first started, I didn't join because it was so confusing. That's definitely off-putting for new people. Fediverse and the concept of it is still confusing for me but I am trying to learn it.

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                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                          Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                          In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                          TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                          If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                          #FediTips

                          arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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                          #59

                          @FediTips I blocked mastodon.social a while ago because an awful lot of #antisemitism came from users on that server. Haven't missed it.

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                          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                            @LappenjammerDieZweite

                            Unfortunately this is a risk with any online service, even the largest 😞 (e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/18/myspace-loses-all-content-uploaded-before-2016 )

                            What was the process by which you chose OpenBiblio by the way? I'm wondering if there's some way to improve the listing site. I don't think I've listed them on Fedi.Garden, were they on JoinMastodon? If they were listed on either site, they should have had daily backups to avoid this scenario.

                            kye@tech.lgbtK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #60

                            @FediTips @LappenjammerDieZweite It's possible to avoid it on ATproto, but it takes some extra steps. Mainly adding a rotation key for adversarial migration. Non-Bluesky platforms, relays, and PDSes would need to move to one of the major PLC mirrors if the collapse was big enough.

                            AP might become the same if the recent initiative to advance ActivityPods and C2S takes off.

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                            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                              Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                              In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                              TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                              If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                              #FediTips

                              imbrium_photography@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
                              imbrium_photography@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
                              imbrium_photography@mastodon.social
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                              #61

                              @FediTips Though you can't easily move to another instance if that instance has 'suspend' on mastodon.social ... and not all instances seem to publish their suspend/silence lists ...

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                              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                                In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                                TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                                If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                                #FediTips

                                magicmutti@muenchen.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                magicmutti@muenchen.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                magicmutti@muenchen.social
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                                #62

                                @FediTips
                                Thanks for the information! I just moved from mastodon.social to muenchen.social.

                                Thanks to your helpful instructions everything went well 😄

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                                • magicmutti@muenchen.socialM magicmutti@muenchen.social

                                  @FediTips
                                  Thanks for the information! I just moved from mastodon.social to muenchen.social.

                                  Thanks to your helpful instructions everything went well 😄

                                  feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #63

                                  @MagicMutti

                                  Brilliant to hear it went well! 🙂 Hope you have fun on the new server.

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                                  • imbrium_photography@mastodon.socialI imbrium_photography@mastodon.social

                                    @FediTips Though you can't easily move to another instance if that instance has 'suspend' on mastodon.social ... and not all instances seem to publish their suspend/silence lists ...

                                    feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #64

                                    @imbrium_photography

                                    Most instances don't suspend mastodon.social, but if they do the workaround is to move to a third server that federates with both, then from the third server to the one you want.

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                                    • kye@tech.lgbtK kye@tech.lgbt

                                      @FediTips @LappenjammerDieZweite It's possible to avoid it on ATproto, but it takes some extra steps. Mainly adding a rotation key for adversarial migration. Non-Bluesky platforms, relays, and PDSes would need to move to one of the major PLC mirrors if the collapse was big enough.

                                      AP might become the same if the recent initiative to advance ActivityPods and C2S takes off.

                                      feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #65

                                      @Kye @LappenjammerDieZweite

                                      You can't avoid this risk on any online platform, anything online could shut down or be misconfigured.

                                      Also, ATProto isn't decentralised: https://plus.flux.community/p/banning-controversy-reveals-blueskys

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                                      • cathybikesbook@mastodon.socialC cathybikesbook@mastodon.social

                                        @FediTips I was deciding between mastodon.social and mastodon.plus. ended up choosing mastodon social. I'm happy with my decision, although I am still relatively new here. I will say having all those different servers is confusing for new people. I remember when Mastodon first started, I didn't join because it was so confusing. That's definitely off-putting for new people. Fediverse and the concept of it is still confusing for me but I am trying to learn it.

                                        feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #66

                                        @CathyBikesBook

                                        Thanks for the feedback 🙏

                                        I've made a sign-up site at https://fedi.garden which hopefully avoids this confusion. If there's anything I can do to make it even less confusing, feedback welcome there too.

                                        I know it is confusing but there are really important reasons why there are so many servers: https://fedi.tips/why-is-the-fediverse-on-so-many-separate-servers

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                                        • rfpatterson@mastodon.nzR rfpatterson@mastodon.nz

                                          @FediTips I am on mastodon.social but also on two other Mastodons and another #Fedi site. I seldom post on the big one. Does #FediTips want me to change anything?

                                          feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #67

                                          @RFPatterson

                                          Most people only need one account on one server, because the servers talk to each other: https://fedi.tips/do-i-need-multiple-accounts-do-i-need-to-join-lots-of-servers

                                          But there are certain situations where multiple accounts are useful: https://fedi.tips/using-multiple-accounts-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse/

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