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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

    @steffo

    That is shocking! How terrible.

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    #9

    @futurebird @steffo bluesky is like if someone tried to make a worse version of the fediverse that was also a worse version of bitcoin

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    • ben@mastodon.lubar.meB ben@mastodon.lubar.me

      @futurebird @steffo bluesky is like if someone tried to make a worse version of the fediverse that was also a worse version of bitcoin

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      #10

      @futurebird @steffo not worse as in more harmful, worse as in a bitcoin fan would look at it and go "what is this garbage"

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      • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

        @futurebird I watch videos in the Fediverse that are hosted elsewhere. Normally I don't pay attention to where they are, YouTube is noticeable because you have to click through a bunch of 'Did you really want to opt out of all of the data have sting we do?' and then they show ads every few minutes. It's such an utterly wretched experience I avoid it. I also subscribe to a few streaming services.

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        #11

        @david_chisnall

        youTube “premium” is the only corporate streaming service I pay for and it’s to avoid the ads. (I also do nebula but I never watch it-) It sounds like it’s gotten worse.

        I think maybe I should cancel youTube too since I feel angst paying google, and they treat creators so terribly. I make a ton of direct donations. If a creator has fewer than 50k subscribers I send $20. I spend about $300 a month this way.

        futurebird@sauropods.winF whvholst@eupolicy.socialW cedartea@social.coopC flying_saucers@mastodon.socialF dianea@lgbtqia.spaceD 6 Replies Last reply
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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          @stepheneb

          What is the best noncorporate streaming site you enjoy?

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          #12

          @futurebird

          Some caveats: I use a hardened browser (up to date add-blocking, etc) I don't use for other things.

          Fnd the IMDB code for the movie or series.

          For movies:

          vsrc dot su slash embed slash imbcode

          For series:
          vsrc dot su slash embed slash imbcode slash season-number - episode-number

          The top level domain sometimes changes.

          Example: Little Demon with Aubry Plaza, Lucy DeVito and Danny DeVito

          https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12198014/

          vsrc dot su slash embed slash tt12198014 slash 1-1

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            @david_chisnall

            youTube “premium” is the only corporate streaming service I pay for and it’s to avoid the ads. (I also do nebula but I never watch it-) It sounds like it’s gotten worse.

            I think maybe I should cancel youTube too since I feel angst paying google, and they treat creators so terribly. I make a ton of direct donations. If a creator has fewer than 50k subscribers I send $20. I spend about $300 a month this way.

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            #13

            @david_chisnall

            $300 a month sounds like a lot — but if more people accounted for all of their streaming subscriptions I think it’s pretty normal.

            If we could get 1% of streaming subscribers to switch to paying creators directly like this? It would have a transformational impact on the media landscape.

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              @david_chisnall

              youTube “premium” is the only corporate streaming service I pay for and it’s to avoid the ads. (I also do nebula but I never watch it-) It sounds like it’s gotten worse.

              I think maybe I should cancel youTube too since I feel angst paying google, and they treat creators so terribly. I make a ton of direct donations. If a creator has fewer than 50k subscribers I send $20. I spend about $300 a month this way.

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              #14

              @futurebird @david_chisnall freetube is a wonderful tool

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                @david_chisnall

                youTube “premium” is the only corporate streaming service I pay for and it’s to avoid the ads. (I also do nebula but I never watch it-) It sounds like it’s gotten worse.

                I think maybe I should cancel youTube too since I feel angst paying google, and they treat creators so terribly. I make a ton of direct donations. If a creator has fewer than 50k subscribers I send $20. I spend about $300 a month this way.

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                #15

                @futurebird
                Firefox with the ublock add-on gets you around the youtube ads for free. And all other ads as well. I haven't seen an ad on my computer or phone in years.

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                • cedartea@social.coopC cedartea@social.coop

                  @futurebird
                  Firefox with the ublock add-on gets you around the youtube ads for free. And all other ads as well. I haven't seen an ad on my computer or phone in years.

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                  #16

                  @CedarTea @futurebird i do this too, ads are not allowed to set foot in my home. my own home!

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    @david_chisnall

                    youTube “premium” is the only corporate streaming service I pay for and it’s to avoid the ads. (I also do nebula but I never watch it-) It sounds like it’s gotten worse.

                    I think maybe I should cancel youTube too since I feel angst paying google, and they treat creators so terribly. I make a ton of direct donations. If a creator has fewer than 50k subscribers I send $20. I spend about $300 a month this way.

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                    #17

                    @futurebird @david_chisnall I use YouTube ads as a motivator to watch more nebula instead 😄

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      @david_chisnall

                      youTube “premium” is the only corporate streaming service I pay for and it’s to avoid the ads. (I also do nebula but I never watch it-) It sounds like it’s gotten worse.

                      I think maybe I should cancel youTube too since I feel angst paying google, and they treat creators so terribly. I make a ton of direct donations. If a creator has fewer than 50k subscribers I send $20. I spend about $300 a month this way.

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                      #18

                      @futurebird @david_chisnall

                      Seems like every easy way to compensate artists, billionaires start taking everyone's lunch money

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        @david_chisnall

                        youTube “premium” is the only corporate streaming service I pay for and it’s to avoid the ads. (I also do nebula but I never watch it-) It sounds like it’s gotten worse.

                        I think maybe I should cancel youTube too since I feel angst paying google, and they treat creators so terribly. I make a ton of direct donations. If a creator has fewer than 50k subscribers I send $20. I spend about $300 a month this way.

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                        #19

                        @futurebird @david_chisnall You don't need Premium to avoid ads - just a decent adblocker. I haven't seen a single YT ad in like two decades.

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          RE: https://sauropods.win/@futurebird/115915908299552986

                          I think the results of this poll are important. I suspected that #YouTube was the primary way that people on the fediverse watch video and that seems to be true.

                          Can someone conduct a similar poll over on #bluesky I would guess YouTube and "other corporate" will both grow and the last two options will shrink.

                          (I might make the poll with my alt account over there, but I don't think many people see it.)

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                          #20

                          @futurebird I'm with team "Don't watch much," especially since Youtube and other commercial started to have annoying ads.

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                          • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                            @futurebird @david_chisnall You don't need Premium to avoid ads - just a decent adblocker. I haven't seen a single YT ad in like two decades.

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                            #21

                            @jwcph @david_chisnall

                            what browsers do you use?

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              @david_chisnall

                              $300 a month sounds like a lot — but if more people accounted for all of their streaming subscriptions I think it’s pretty normal.

                              If we could get 1% of streaming subscribers to switch to paying creators directly like this? It would have a transformational impact on the media landscape.

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                              #22

                              @futurebird

                              The thing that bugs me about the TV model is that the first step of the chain works how I want the whole thing to work. A studio creates a pilot (cheaply, missing effects and so on), which they then shop to networks. If networks think they can make money from it, they commission the whole thing. If they're a bit unsure they may pay for the pilot to be finished, show it, and use the viewer feedback to make the decision on whether to fund the whole series.

                              They then decide whether to renew the series for another season based on how well it does.

                              I would love to see the pilots made public and the series funded directly by potential viewers, to be made available for free distribution. When you release the first episodes, announce how much you need to make season 2 (including your profit), and start making it if you raise that much. Fans are incentuvised to share the show as widely as possible because it increases the chance people will pay for the next episodes.

                              Instead, we get two or more layers of indirection between fans and studios, and popular shows get cancelled because advertisers don't think its viewers will buy things.

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                @jwcph @david_chisnall

                                what browsers do you use?

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                                #23

                                @futurebird @david_chisnall Right now I use the Zen browser, but adblocking has worked on every browser & platform for more than a decade - Firefox, Safari, Chrome, Vivaldi etc.

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                                • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                                  @futurebird @david_chisnall Right now I use the Zen browser, but adblocking has worked on every browser & platform for more than a decade - Firefox, Safari, Chrome, Vivaldi etc.

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                                  #24

                                  @jwcph @futurebird @david_chisnall Yeah, uBlock Origin in particular is highly effective.

                                  I'm using LibreWolf (I'm getting a bit paranoid about privacy lately for some odd reason) and can confirm I just straight up don't get ads in Youtube and I'd almost doubt it even had them since I never have (due to having uBlock Origin since before Youtube went to such a questionable model) except I sometimes use Youtube on things like my Switch (which obviously won't block ads from their own app.)

                                  Google really screws artists and their model puts themselves first, not the artists. They've profited off of many artists in ways that, legally, I think they actually can't do (because it monetizes stuff that never gave permission...)

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