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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    GenAI is going great (this is real)

    https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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    #158

    @GossiTheDog Plus Facebook and Reddit are the most-cited references for AI Overview. So it's partly learning from the internet's worst corner

    https://www.popsci.com/technology/ai-overview-inaccuracy-google/

    Gemini is different

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      GenAI is going great (this is real)

      https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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      #159

      @GossiTheDog that thing is really suffering.

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      • 0x72d8@mastodon.top0 0x72d8@mastodon.top

        @GossiTheDog that thing is really suffering.

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        #160

        @GossiTheDog I’m certain interesting results might be found by reverse engineering the tokenization process.

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          If anybody is wondering how this keeps happening, Google pull their AI output from Reddit. Somebody posted a Reddit thread saying days have fish in them, so now Google replies saying that. Google just blindly trusts any poster on Reddit (not a joke).

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          #161

          @GossiTheDog so all that we need to do to defeat AI is start lying on the internet?

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          • jasper89@mastodon.socialJ jasper89@mastodon.social

            @cgudrian @GossiTheDog everyone knows Friday is Fishfryday. 😝

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            #162

            @jasper89 @cgudrian @GossiTheDog Fryfish. It is religiously forbidden to steam fish on that day.

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            • cgudrian@social.tchncs.deC cgudrian@social.tchncs.de

              @nblr Geht auch auf Deutsch. Weiße Bescheid.

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              #163

              @cgudrian @nblr
              ELIZA: Is something troubling you ?
              YOU: Wieviele Wochentage enden auf brumm?
              ELIZA: That is interesting. Please continue.

              Ich frage mich, warum Eliza sich nicht durchgesetzt hat. Viel weniger Halluzinationen.

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              • chantal@social.coolsma.comC chantal@social.coolsma.com

                @GossiTheDog @Herman dive in the AI struggles of Father Phi. Hilarious https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=Fatherphi&ra=m

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                #164

                @GossiTheDog @chantal Thanks, hilarious indeed. 🤣

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  GenAI is going great (this is real)

                  https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                  #165

                  @GossiTheDog Gemini also likes Stargate

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                  • valdezwoof@meow.socialV valdezwoof@meow.social

                    @GossiTheDog seems like they fixed it, but it was a funny screen grab lol

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                    #166

                    @valdezWOOF

                    @GossiTheDog

                    I stopped getting an AI overview for the exact query.

                    But minor tweaks like "in the week, how many days are there, that have fish in them" still get nonsense

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      GenAI is going great (this is real)

                      https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                      #167

                      @GossiTheDog

                      A get a different hallucination. Wow.

                      @haploc

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                      • nxadm@infosec.exchangeN nxadm@infosec.exchange

                        @GossiTheDog

                        A get a different hallucination. Wow.

                        @haploc

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                        #168

                        @nxadm@infosec.exchange @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social @haploc@fedi.cr-net.be wow so this is how google search dies, neat

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          GenAI is going great (this is real)

                          https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                          #169

                          @GossiTheDog WTF is even broken in Spanish

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            GenAI is going great (this is real)

                            https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                            #170

                            @GossiTheDog don’t worry, they are improving it. It told me only two days.

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              If anybody is wondering how this keeps happening, Google pull their AI output from Reddit. Somebody posted a Reddit thread saying days have fish in them, so now Google replies saying that. Google just blindly trusts any poster on Reddit (not a joke).

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                              #171

                              @GossiTheDog This is exactly the problem. Compare to the output of gemma 4 e2b (literally the weakest current model you can run at home on most laptops) below.

                              ...me trying to jailbreak models while Redditors do it accidentally.

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                              • hszakher@mastodon.worldH hszakher@mastodon.world

                                @catsalad @rx13 @GossiTheDog I also got "two days" but no explanation or reference to exotic fish. I'm not worthy of further explanation it seems

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                                #172

                                @hszakher @catsalad @rx13 @GossiTheDog lol, it looks like there it listed Tuesday as one of the days because it previously said "two days"... And they share letters...

                                And listed Friday because fish shares letters with Fri.

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  GenAI is going great (this is real)

                                  https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                                  #173

                                  @GossiTheDog

                                  I dunno, an ai said it? They're really expensive. It must be true. Sigh. Ill start changing my calendars

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    GenAI is going great (this is real)

                                    https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                                    #174

                                    @GossiTheDog
                                    It's getting better. Google now tells me there are only 2 days with fish in the name. Plus I should eat fish 2 times a week. It has no opinion on mercury levels though.

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      GenAI is going great (this is real)

                                      https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                                      #175

                                      @GossiTheDog while it seems fixed for me with the original query, I can reproduce getting nonsensical replies in German:

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                                      • lightfighter@infosec.exchangeL lightfighter@infosec.exchange

                                        @CliftonR @GossiTheDog Lesson learned. If I don't like an Ai answer, just keep asking until I get the answer I want. Very intelligent.

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                                        #176

                                        @Lightfighter @CliftonR @GossiTheDog if you recognize the answer as correct (or wrong) you didn't need the ai.

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          GenAI is going great (this is real)

                                          https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                                          #177

                                          @GossiTheDog good it still can find letters in words.

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