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GenAI is going great (this is real)

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  • hszakher@mastodon.worldH hszakher@mastodon.world

    @catsalad @rx13 @GossiTheDog I also got "two days" but no explanation or reference to exotic fish. I'm not worthy of further explanation it seems

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    #172

    @hszakher @catsalad @rx13 @GossiTheDog lol, it looks like there it listed Tuesday as one of the days because it previously said "two days"... And they share letters...

    And listed Friday because fish shares letters with Fri.

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      GenAI is going great (this is real)

      https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

      tomjennings@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #173

      @GossiTheDog

      I dunno, an ai said it? They're really expensive. It must be true. Sigh. Ill start changing my calendars

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        GenAI is going great (this is real)

        https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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        #174

        @GossiTheDog
        It's getting better. Google now tells me there are only 2 days with fish in the name. Plus I should eat fish 2 times a week. It has no opinion on mercury levels though.

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          GenAI is going great (this is real)

          https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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          #175

          @GossiTheDog while it seems fixed for me with the original query, I can reproduce getting nonsensical replies in German:

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          • lightfighter@infosec.exchangeL lightfighter@infosec.exchange

            @CliftonR @GossiTheDog Lesson learned. If I don't like an Ai answer, just keep asking until I get the answer I want. Very intelligent.

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            #176

            @Lightfighter @CliftonR @GossiTheDog if you recognize the answer as correct (or wrong) you didn't need the ai.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              GenAI is going great (this is real)

              https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

              rakowskibartosz@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #177

              @GossiTheDog good it still can find letters in words.

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                GenAI is going great (this is real)

                https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                #178

                @GossiTheDog
                It didn't work now, so i tested a classic one and... Hey, at least "it's" "trying"

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                • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

                  @Lightfighter @CliftonR @GossiTheDog if you recognize the answer as correct (or wrong) you didn't need the ai.

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                  #179

                  @Lightfighter @CliftonR @GossiTheDog and if you _don't_ know if the answer is correct (or wrong) you shouldn't use the ai answer... except maybe in cases where a guess is useful?

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    If anybody is wondering how this keeps happening, Google pull their AI output from Reddit. Somebody posted a Reddit thread saying days have fish in them, so now Google replies saying that. Google just blindly trusts any poster on Reddit (not a joke).

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                    #180

                    @GossiTheDog funny thing it says two days for me and I don't even see reddit as a source listed.

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                    • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

                      @Lightfighter @CliftonR @GossiTheDog and if you _don't_ know if the answer is correct (or wrong) you shouldn't use the ai answer... except maybe in cases where a guess is useful?

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                      #181

                      @poleguy @Lightfighter @GossiTheDog

                      I think they were being ironic about it.

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                      • cliftonr@wandering.shopC cliftonr@wandering.shop

                        @poleguy @Lightfighter @GossiTheDog

                        I think they were being ironic about it.

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                        #182

                        @CliftonR @Lightfighter @GossiTheDog Yes, I didn't miss the irony! I very much agree.

                        I'm just preaching to the choir a bit, just like everyone else here. And the echo in the chamber here makes my voice sound great!

                        It's fun, but, now I'll stop typing and just carry on singing in my head.

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          Anybody can abuse this one btw, just post bullshit on Reddit about a company supporting Israel or whatever and Google recites it.

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                          #183

                          There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

                          gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG stitzl@mastodon.socialS guitarfosec@cyberplace.socialG cyberoutsider@infosec.exchangeC raspberryswirl@chaos.socialR 14 Replies Last reply
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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                            #184

                            More on this: https://www.404media.co/companies-are-using-reddit-to-manipulate-chatgpt-and-google-ai-search/

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                              #185

                              @GossiTheDog Finally, SEO for LLMs.

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                                #186

                                @GossiTheDog What bothers me most about this screenshot is that they're advertising posting a statement to AskReddit.

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                                  #187

                                  @GossiTheDog It was only a matter of time before the SEO industry broke into "poisoning AI responses for money".

                                  Every AI response in 6 months is going to have a horrific political bias to it.

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                                    #188

                                    @GossiTheDog SupplyChainAttack😂

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                                      #189

                                      @GossiTheDog I never thought I would see "Parasitic SEO" as a selling point...

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                                        #190

                                        @GossiTheDog this is the bit that absolutely boggles my mind how anyone can look at LLMs and bet their future on them

                                        You have to keep re-training them with fresh data or they become outdated. The sheer amount of data needed is too expensive to self-generate so they are making it too expensive for the rest of the world to host quality data publicly thereby creating an incentive for the data sources to dry up

                                        This is a fundamental part of the system. No amount of optimisations fixes this 🤷‍♂️

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                                          #191

                                          @GossiTheDog Large Language Model Assimilation Optimization (LLMAO) 🤪

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