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  3. Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted.

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  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

    Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

    But their map is wrong.

    Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

    https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

    raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #7

    @ricci
    I don't think W is an EU backed SMN. I think it's simply in Europe?

    I could be wrong, but it looks like PR baloney.

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    • colinburgess@mastodon.nzC colinburgess@mastodon.nz

      @ricci @xrobau I see!

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      #8

      @xrobau @colinburgess yeah I wish I had a way to peek behind it but obfuscating the actual source is kinda the whole point, to avoid load on the origin

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      • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

        @ricci
        I don't think W is an EU backed SMN. I think it's simply in Europe?

        I could be wrong, but it looks like PR baloney.

        ricci@discuss.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #9

        @raymaccarthy idk I just saw their shitty map that is bad and they should feel bad about it

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        • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

          @xrobau @colinburgess yeah I wish I had a way to peek behind it but obfuscating the actual source is kinda the whole point, to avoid load on the origin

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          #10

          @ricci @xrobau hey Rob, what’s that database you added our servers to the other day? Could that be useful to Rob for locating mastodon hosts more accurately?

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          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

            Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

            But their map is wrong.

            Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

            https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

            su_g@aus.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11

            @ricci
            Nice to see the little dot points on Australia… 🐨🦘🌏plenty of room for more! Same in Greenland… Africa… other places… Great idea to do this mapping of Fedi worlwide! 🙏🏻

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            • su_g@aus.socialS su_g@aus.social

              @ricci
              Nice to see the little dot points on Australia… 🐨🦘🌏plenty of room for more! Same in Greenland… Africa… other places… Great idea to do this mapping of Fedi worlwide! 🙏🏻

              ricci@discuss.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #12

              @Su_G there are probably more there than it looks like, some are behind CloudFlare, Fastly, etc which generally makes them look like they are in the US

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              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                But their map is wrong.

                Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

                allanb@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                @ricci Nice!

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                • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                  @Su_G there are probably more there than it looks like, some are behind CloudFlare, Fastly, etc which generally makes them look like they are in the US

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                  #14

                  @ricci
                  Good to know! So it’s the minimum that we’re seeing mapped for the seemingly sparse areas. 😁👍🙏🏻

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                  • su_g@aus.socialS su_g@aus.social

                    @ricci
                    Good to know! So it’s the minimum that we’re seeing mapped for the seemingly sparse areas. 😁👍🙏🏻

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                    #15

                    @Su_G yup. wish I had a way to map stuff behind CDNs, but I don't, that's kinda the purpose of a CDN

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                    • colinburgess@mastodon.nzC colinburgess@mastodon.nz

                      @ricci @xrobau hey Rob, what’s that database you added our servers to the other day? Could that be useful to Rob for locating mastodon hosts more accurately?

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                      #16

                      @colinburgess @ricci https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?region=oceania

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                      • xrobau@mastodon.auX xrobau@mastodon.au

                        @colinburgess @ricci https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?region=oceania

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                        #17

                        @colinburgess @xrobau thanks maybe I can pull this kind of thing from their API, I'll check

                        Also, unrelated, I'm the owner of xrob.org so uh hi

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                        • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                          @Su_G yup. wish I had a way to map stuff behind CDNs, but I don't, that's kinda the purpose of a CDN

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                          #18

                          @ricci
                          😁🙏🏻

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                          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                            Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                            But their map is wrong.

                            Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                            https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

                            gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #19

                            @ricci I bet it’s owned by another bunch of techbros. Just techbros not from USA.

                            Let’s call them ’Eurobros’ because they just want to do a repeat inside Europe of what the neoliberal project managed to make of the US.

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                            • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                              Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                              But their map is wrong.

                              Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                              https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

                              mfr@mastodon.coffeeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #20

                              @ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

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                              • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                                @ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

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                                #21

                                @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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                                • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                  Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                  But their map is wrong.

                                  Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                  https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                                  #22

                                  @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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                                  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                    @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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                                    #23

                                    @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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                                    • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                                      @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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                                      #24

                                      @azuidhof @mfr idk unclear, but so far they are connecting to the Bluesky relay, which you could think of as the atproto equivalent of "federating"

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                                      • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                                        @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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                                        #25

                                        @jollysea I realize they are not a government entity. But they are using a .eu domain (yes I know basically anyone can get one) so clearly this is the way they're trying to sell themselves

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                                        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                          @ricci

                                          Maybe only tech bro corporate social media sites count. 🤷

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                                          #26

                                          @mastodonmigration @ricci

                                          Not to me 🧡

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