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  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

    Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

    But their map is wrong.

    Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

    https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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    #13

    @ricci Nice!

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    • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

      @Su_G there are probably more there than it looks like, some are behind CloudFlare, Fastly, etc which generally makes them look like they are in the US

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      #14

      @ricci
      Good to know! So it’s the minimum that we’re seeing mapped for the seemingly sparse areas. 😁👍🙏🏻

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      • su_g@aus.socialS su_g@aus.social

        @ricci
        Good to know! So it’s the minimum that we’re seeing mapped for the seemingly sparse areas. 😁👍🙏🏻

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        #15

        @Su_G yup. wish I had a way to map stuff behind CDNs, but I don't, that's kinda the purpose of a CDN

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        • colinburgess@mastodon.nzC colinburgess@mastodon.nz

          @ricci @xrobau hey Rob, what’s that database you added our servers to the other day? Could that be useful to Rob for locating mastodon hosts more accurately?

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          #16

          @colinburgess @ricci https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?region=oceania

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          • xrobau@mastodon.auX xrobau@mastodon.au

            @colinburgess @ricci https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?region=oceania

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            #17

            @colinburgess @xrobau thanks maybe I can pull this kind of thing from their API, I'll check

            Also, unrelated, I'm the owner of xrob.org so uh hi

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            • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

              @Su_G yup. wish I had a way to map stuff behind CDNs, but I don't, that's kinda the purpose of a CDN

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              #18

              @ricci
              😁🙏🏻

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              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                But their map is wrong.

                Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                #19

                @ricci I bet it’s owned by another bunch of techbros. Just techbros not from USA.

                Let’s call them ’Eurobros’ because they just want to do a repeat inside Europe of what the neoliberal project managed to make of the US.

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                • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                  Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                  But their map is wrong.

                  Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                  https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                  #20

                  @ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

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                  • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                    @ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

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                    #21

                    @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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                    • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                      Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                      But their map is wrong.

                      Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                      https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                      #22

                      @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                        @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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                        #23

                        @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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                        • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                          @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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                          #24

                          @azuidhof @mfr idk unclear, but so far they are connecting to the Bluesky relay, which you could think of as the atproto equivalent of "federating"

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                          • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                            @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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                            #25

                            @jollysea I realize they are not a government entity. But they are using a .eu domain (yes I know basically anyone can get one) so clearly this is the way they're trying to sell themselves

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                            • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                              @ricci

                              Maybe only tech bro corporate social media sites count. 🤷

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                              #26

                              @mastodonmigration @ricci

                              Not to me 🧡

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                              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                But their map is wrong.

                                Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                                #27

                                @ricci

                                Isn't the EU also on Mastodon?

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                                • supermoosie@mastodon.auS supermoosie@mastodon.au

                                  @ricci

                                  Isn't the EU also on Mastodon?

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                                  #28

                                  @SuperMoosie @ricci

                                  Comission (that is, the EU-ministers) are. The other branches are not.

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                                  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                    Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                    But their map is wrong.

                                    Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                    https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

                                    johan@social.terbeest.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #29

                                    @ricci It’s undercounting for sure. I don’t see mine on there for instance. I run GoToSocial.

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                                    • johan@social.terbeest.orgJ johan@social.terbeest.org

                                      @ricci It’s undercounting for sure. I don’t see mine on there for instance. I run GoToSocial.

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                                      #30

                                      @johan yeah, I'm guessing you probably have the option to hide public stats turned on? my crawler respects that option

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                                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                        @johan yeah, I'm guessing you probably have the option to hide public stats turned on? my crawler respects that option

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                                        #31

                                        @ricci Possibly? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ll go check cause I don’t actually mind to be findable

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                                        • colinburgess@mastodon.nzC colinburgess@mastodon.nz

                                          @ricci weird, this seems to omit mastodon.nz and mastodon.au @xrobau

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                                          #32

                                          @colinburgess @ricci @xrobau are birds even real?

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