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  • J jlin@cosocial.ca

    @Viss @nyanbinary antivirus needs an antivirus

    viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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    #3

    @jlin @nyanbinary i think france, denmark and germany have the right idea - just ditch windows entirely

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    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

      h/t @nyanbinary

      so let me get this straight
      microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

      has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

      if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

      the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

      mccrankyface@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #4

      @Viss @nyanbinary

      Microsoft is an APT.
      It is known

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      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

        h/t @nyanbinary

        so let me get this straight
        microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

        has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

        if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

        the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

        _greywolf@kinkycats.org_ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @Viss
        Though that kinda is always the risk
        Antivirus just had the biggest attack surface
        @nyanbinary

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        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

          h/t @nyanbinary

          so let me get this straight
          microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

          has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

          if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

          the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

          huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #6

          @Viss @nyanbinary

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          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

            h/t @nyanbinary

            so let me get this straight
            microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

            has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

            if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

            the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

            apodoxus@mastodon.onlineA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #7

            @Viss @nyanbinary This is why we always advocated for MAC rather than addling layers of bullshit. Ya'll are just increasing the attack surface area all the time. You need to REDUCE it with a tiny thoroughly audited reference monitor.

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            • apodoxus@mastodon.onlineA apodoxus@mastodon.online

              @Viss @nyanbinary This is why we always advocated for MAC rather than addling layers of bullshit. Ya'll are just increasing the attack surface area all the time. You need to REDUCE it with a tiny thoroughly audited reference monitor.

              apodoxus@mastodon.onlineA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @Viss @nyanbinary Can't make money doing that though... and that's all anyone cares about.

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              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                h/t @nyanbinary

                so let me get this straight
                microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

                has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

                if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

                the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

                jeffers00n@tiny.tilde.websiteJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @Viss @nyanbinary straight out of Jennifer Government. (A good read if you haven't read it)

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                  h/t @nyanbinary

                  so let me get this straight
                  microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

                  has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

                  if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

                  the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

                  slyborg@ohai.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #10

                  @Viss @nyanbinary this isn’t even the first time this has happened with Defender

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                  • jeffers00n@tiny.tilde.websiteJ jeffers00n@tiny.tilde.website

                    @Viss @nyanbinary straight out of Jennifer Government. (A good read if you haven't read it)

                    mpc3032at@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #11

                    @jeffers00n @Viss @nyanbinary also a subplot in Snow Crash iirc

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                    • mpc3032at@mastodon.socialM mpc3032at@mastodon.social

                      @jeffers00n @Viss @nyanbinary also a subplot in Snow Crash iirc

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                      #12

                      @mpc3032at @jeffers00n @nyanbinary oh boy its been a while since i listened to snowcrash on audiobook.

                      s'too bad we cant have a "but they're sure to listen to reason" moment

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                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                        h/t @nyanbinary

                        so let me get this straight
                        microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

                        has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

                        if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

                        the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

                        argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #13

                        @Viss @nyanbinary

                        Ah good. Now I don't have to deal with code signing my app any more. 😂

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                          @mpc3032at @jeffers00n @nyanbinary oh boy its been a while since i listened to snowcrash on audiobook.

                          s'too bad we cant have a "but they're sure to listen to reason" moment

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                          #14

                          @Viss @jeffers00n @nyanbinary aww i remember almost nothing about the book now, but the one lady hacking away feverishly on that was a standout for me at the time, it seemed so cool, in like a 'obvious in retrospect' way... but actually living it derpishly like this is... i dunno 😕

                          (also, hello fediverse! 2nd ~post, woo! and hello fediverse person... you gave me lovely positive feedback in *minutes*... i like this!)

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                          • mpc3032at@mastodon.socialM mpc3032at@mastodon.social

                            @Viss @jeffers00n @nyanbinary aww i remember almost nothing about the book now, but the one lady hacking away feverishly on that was a standout for me at the time, it seemed so cool, in like a 'obvious in retrospect' way... but actually living it derpishly like this is... i dunno 😕

                            (also, hello fediverse! 2nd ~post, woo! and hello fediverse person... you gave me lovely positive feedback in *minutes*... i like this!)

                            more ->

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                            #15

                            @Viss @jeffers00n @nyanbinary a couple years back i got depressed about softwaring because of this ~'AI' silliness coming down the pike, but of late it is SO BAD i feel incrementally fired up, renewed

                            riffing wildly, maybe software, because of its peculiar nature (this reified perfection of causality) is a good, stark example of why things should be done by people who love the things...because when not, the error compounds exponentially, and we get *this* (gestures wildly all around)

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                            • mpc3032at@mastodon.socialM mpc3032at@mastodon.social

                              @Viss @jeffers00n @nyanbinary a couple years back i got depressed about softwaring because of this ~'AI' silliness coming down the pike, but of late it is SO BAD i feel incrementally fired up, renewed

                              riffing wildly, maybe software, because of its peculiar nature (this reified perfection of causality) is a good, stark example of why things should be done by people who love the things...because when not, the error compounds exponentially, and we get *this* (gestures wildly all around)

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                              #16

                              @mpc3032at @jeffers00n @nyanbinary yeah i wager youre probably in good company here

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                              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                @mpc3032at @jeffers00n @nyanbinary yeah i wager youre probably in good company here

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                                #17

                                @Viss @jeffers00n @nyanbinary yay!

                                Vive la révolution!

                                (although, evolution preferably... i offer myself to the commons for the cause, lol)

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                  h/t @nyanbinary

                                  so let me get this straight
                                  microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

                                  has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

                                  if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

                                  the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

                                  alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #18

                                  @Viss @nyanbinary Reminds me of Taviso's P0 research from a few years ago targeting AV scanning sandboxes/VMs.

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                                  • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                                    @Viss @nyanbinary

                                    Ah good. Now I don't have to deal with code signing my app any more. 😂

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                                    #19

                                    @argv_minus_one @Viss @nyanbinary I wonder if I can use this to configure winrm so I can remote in and fix the random shit Microsoft keeps breaking.

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                                    • alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA alesandroortiz@infosec.exchange

                                      @Viss @nyanbinary Reminds me of Taviso's P0 research from a few years ago targeting AV scanning sandboxes/VMs.

                                      viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #20

                                      @AlesandroOrtiz @nyanbinary oh yeah, 100%

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                                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                        @jlin @nyanbinary i think france, denmark and germany have the right idea - just ditch windows entirely

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                                        #21

                                        @Viss @jlin @nyanbinary Ditches have a purpose. They are not for refuse. Put that shit in the trash.

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                                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                          h/t @nyanbinary

                                          so let me get this straight
                                          microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

                                          has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

                                          if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

                                          the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

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                                          #22

                                          @Viss @nyanbinary Sufficiently advanced Windows services are indistinguishable from malware

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