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  • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

    In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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    #6

    @anneapplebaum

    My post from the other day after folks were upsel over the "diesel deal"-

    https://mastodon.social/@DukeDuke/117416386477604739

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    • dannyreving@mastodon.socialD dannyreving@mastodon.social

      @anneapplebaum What kompromat do the russians have I wonder.

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      #7

      @dannyreving @anneapplebaum

      Well... the 'pee tapes' were never disproven.

      To be honest, Trump would be incredibly easily caught in kompromat back in the 80s and 90s and probably the 2010s. It would be hard to imagine anyone more likely to get led into girls and money.

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      • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

        In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
        https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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        #8

        @anneapplebaum

        A reasonable guess is that Putin holds something big on Trump ( what might that be...sex tapes?) and has threatened to release it before the midterms. Putin is desperate, he might have gone tough on Trump. Just my guess, of course.

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        • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

          In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
          https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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          #9

          @anneapplebaum 👍 V Kremlu mají na Trumpa celou složku. A určitě nebude hezká.

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          • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

            In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
            https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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            #10

            @anneapplebaum I just can't wrap my head around how he still is president. Russia can never replace Europe and Canada as allies, still he is going full speed deconstructing the architecture that US power has built and relied on since WWII.

            Is he consciously doing this to the US or is it pure self interest? Americans must start thinking what happens post DJT.

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            • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

              In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
              https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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              #11

              @anneapplebaum

              Trump is a Russian asset, no doubt about it…

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              • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
                https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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                #12

                @anneapplebaum Excellent article.

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                • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                  In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
                  https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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                  #13

                  @anneapplebaum The Saudi #crypto connection is obvious, but the mutual investments in cornering #energy markets, should be a more obvious ploy to hold suspect - especially considering the Saudi's have been at war with the Houthi's for a decade, and Arabs with Persians, for a thousand years.

                  Just the armaments alone, means heavy #FossilFuels #greed.

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                  • gsymon@mstdn.socialG gsymon@mstdn.social

                    @dannyreving @anneapplebaum

                    Well... the 'pee tapes' were never disproven.

                    To be honest, Trump would be incredibly easily caught in kompromat back in the 80s and 90s and probably the 2010s. It would be hard to imagine anyone more likely to get led into girls and money.

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                    #14

                    @gsymon @dannyreving @anneapplebaum It’s definitely the pee tapes. 1987 in Moscow? The KGB was at peak power at that time. They got him on the best video stock that money could buy.

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                    • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                      In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
                      https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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                      #15

                      @anneapplebaum
                      Trump was never interested in Republicans but they offered him an easy way to get power. And from there he knew how to play the game. He used the Techies to connect the dots and offered them freedom to do whatever they want. A win / win situation - all others will lose!

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                      • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                        In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
                        https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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                        #16

                        @anneapplebaum the worst is that US intelligence knew exactly who and what Trump is and let this all happen. He should have never been on the ballot in ‘24 after 1/6. They killed MLK but just let Trump and his family bleed us dry.

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                        • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                          In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
                          https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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                          #17

                          @anneapplebaum

                          PUPPET PUPPET PUPPET

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                          • dannyreving@mastodon.socialD dannyreving@mastodon.social

                            @anneapplebaum What kompromat do the russians have I wonder.

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                            #18

                            @dannyreving @anneapplebaum

                            Honestly I don't know that they'd need it. Trump admires fascist strongman types, he's always been obsessed with status among the Epstein class and hates that he's historically been looked down on by the wealthy and famous as kind of this crude bore that is only bedgrudingly allowed access because of his wealth (or perception of wealth previously).

                            So what blackmail there is probably was given willingly, that's how it works. It's more of a pact amongst these types.

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                            • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                              @dannyreving @anneapplebaum

                              Honestly I don't know that they'd need it. Trump admires fascist strongman types, he's always been obsessed with status among the Epstein class and hates that he's historically been looked down on by the wealthy and famous as kind of this crude bore that is only bedgrudingly allowed access because of his wealth (or perception of wealth previously).

                              So what blackmail there is probably was given willingly, that's how it works. It's more of a pact amongst these types.

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                              #19

                              @dannyreving @anneapplebaum

                              Amongst liars and sociopaths the only means of verifying trust between themselves is through mutual blackmail. That way they know they're in it together, rather than merely pulling a con like they do on the "normies", they can have confidence in the material reality of the dirt they each have.

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                              • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

                                @gsymon @dannyreving @anneapplebaum It’s definitely the pee tapes. 1987 in Moscow? The KGB was at peak power at that time. They got him on the best video stock that money could buy.

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                                #20

                                @tsturm @gsymon @dannyreving @anneapplebaum

                                He is a war criminal.

                                Pee tapes? Are you 5 years old? Who cares about p...

                                ... oh wait, ... HE is like 5 years old.

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                                • dagb@snabelen.noD dagb@snabelen.no

                                  @anneapplebaum I just can't wrap my head around how he still is president. Russia can never replace Europe and Canada as allies, still he is going full speed deconstructing the architecture that US power has built and relied on since WWII.

                                  Is he consciously doing this to the US or is it pure self interest? Americans must start thinking what happens post DJT.

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                                  #21

                                  @dagb @anneapplebaum

                                  " #Canada is a far more reliable 🔅energy partner for the U.S. than #Russia, and yet #Trump has⭕ not sought to improve relations with the Canadian government." #anneapplebaum

                                  Yet, he keeps saying the #MAGA chant, #Democrats Destroying America‼️

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                                  • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                                    In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
                                    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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                                    #22

                                    @anneapplebaum this is juvenile conspiracy theory stuff. It really is.

                                    Everything thing you think you have is barely even circumstantial. I’ve been to Moscow and changed my mind about Russia - am I also an agent ? Because none of the cheques have arrived yet .

                                    Trump is 100% a selfish corrupt bastard, born and bred in the USA, raised on filthy money, like so many others. A bastard child of capitalist degeneracy.

                                    Russia like him because of this.

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                                    • breturn@mastodon.socialB breturn@mastodon.social

                                      @anneapplebaum

                                      A reasonable guess is that Putin holds something big on Trump ( what might that be...sex tapes?) and has threatened to release it before the midterms. Putin is desperate, he might have gone tough on Trump. Just my guess, of course.

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                                      #23

                                      @Breturn @anneapplebaum or trump just idolises the power of despots and severely wants their approval

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                                      • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                                        In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
                                        https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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                                        #24

                                        @anneapplebaum by buying Russian oil is america funding the iranians fight against america?

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                                        • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                                          In 1987 Trump visited Moscow. Since then, "He has changed his mind about abortion and crypto, he has supported different political parties... but his dislike of America’s democratic allies and his preference for Russia have remained remarkably consistent."
                                          https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/trump-ukraine-putin-fuel/688974/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK39ARsw8qRFJgkBuKV87n014

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                                          #25

                                          @anneapplebaum

                                          Trump supports fossil fuel mining.

                                          The monetary lifeline of the Soviet Union, the turbines powering crypto mining and AI, US allies in the Middle East and the owners of both parties.

                                          He's a petrofascist.

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