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  • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

    This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

    #privacy

    I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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    #5

    @RockyC I've tested it with Tor-Browser on Linux and Android. I got
    "roughly 1 in 120.0 million browsers look like yours."
    in both cases.

    Did anybody else try with Tor-Browser?

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    • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

      This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

      #privacy

      I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

      drewph@ieji.deD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #6

      @RockyC
      It said "this page asked for zero permissions." That's an outright lie. It asked to create a webGL context, which my browser (Librewolf) let me decline.

      And it got a lot wrong, including my computer type, public IP address, screen resolution (twice) and trackpad. So I'll sleep OK tonight.

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      • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

        This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

        #privacy

        I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

        marcusgreen@fosstodon.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #7

        @RockyC

        It is impressive, but I dislike how the ideas are expressed.

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        • ingo_wichmann@digitalcourage.socialI ingo_wichmann@digitalcourage.social

          @RockyC I've tested it with Tor-Browser on Linux and Android. I got
          "roughly 1 in 120.0 million browsers look like yours."
          in both cases.

          Did anybody else try with Tor-Browser?

          rockyc@fosstodon.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #8

          @ingo_wichmann I got 1 in 130 million on Zen with Privacy Badger and UBlock Origin installed, and 1 in 120.6 million on FireDragon. Interesting.

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          • drewph@ieji.deD drewph@ieji.de

            @RockyC
            It said "this page asked for zero permissions." That's an outright lie. It asked to create a webGL context, which my browser (Librewolf) let me decline.

            And it got a lot wrong, including my computer type, public IP address, screen resolution (twice) and trackpad. So I'll sleep OK tonight.

            rockyc@fosstodon.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #9

            @drewph Technically, Librewolf did the asking, not the web page.

            It doesn't matter that the data is wrong, only that it is unique and identifiable. They can still track you across websites and build a profile. I set Librewolf to its strictest mode, reloaded the page, and it welcomed me back to my second visit.

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            • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

              This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

              #privacy

              I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

              penguin42@mastodon.org.ukP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10

              @RockyC hth do I have that many text-to-speech voices?!

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              • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                #privacy

                I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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                #11

                @RockyC Really, anybody's is still impressed by that?

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                • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                  @GoblinQuester It doesn't matter if the details are wrong. What matters is that they are consistent. That allows them to build a profile and follow you regardless.

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                  #12

                  @RockyC True dat, if it is consistent ...

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                  • flying_squirrelog@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #13

                    @mherbert @RockyC

                    the test on webpage doesn't seem to work with me. It just keeps reloading. I'm guessing its my browsers privacy settings stopping it

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                    • flying_squirrelog@mastodon.socialF flying_squirrelog@mastodon.social

                      @mherbert @RockyC

                      the test on webpage doesn't seem to work with me. It just keeps reloading. I'm guessing its my browsers privacy settings stopping it

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                      #14

                      @Flying_SquirrelOG @mherbert And if you use noscript, it doesn't load at all.

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                      • flying_squirrelog@mastodon.socialF flying_squirrelog@mastodon.social

                        @mherbert @RockyC

                        the test on webpage doesn't seem to work with me. It just keeps reloading. I'm guessing its my browsers privacy settings stopping it

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                        #15

                        @mherbert @RockyC

                        In regards to rockys test , a custom user agent was set but the original user agent showed. Then changed a setting, now it shows the custom.

                        Thank you because otherwise would have never known about it.

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                        • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                          @drewph Technically, Librewolf did the asking, not the web page.

                          It doesn't matter that the data is wrong, only that it is unique and identifiable. They can still track you across websites and build a profile. I set Librewolf to its strictest mode, reloaded the page, and it welcomed me back to my second visit.

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                          #16

                          @RockyC
                          So presumably the answer is to randomise things frequently - like reporting a fake resolution, a different platform, frequent change of VPN location, etc.

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                          • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                            @Flying_SquirrelOG @mherbert And if you use noscript, it doesn't load at all.

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                            #17

                            @RockyC @mherbert
                            Java is still running but have alot of other features in use.

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                            • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                              This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                              #privacy

                              I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

                              mkitos@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #18

                              @RockyC Most of the comments are about the tool not working correctly or portrayed wrong. Yes it might be the case if you are into privacy and stuff but once think from a perspective of an average internet user with little to no knowledge about privacy. If you show it to them they will surely get interested and look into privacy.
                              Kudos to the developers 🤝 will surely incorporate this into our next awareness session.
                              Thanks for sharing

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                              • drewph@ieji.deD drewph@ieji.de

                                @RockyC
                                So presumably the answer is to randomise things frequently - like reporting a fake resolution, a different platform, frequent change of VPN location, etc.

                                rockyc@fosstodon.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #19

                                @drewph That's what I was thinking.

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                                • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                  This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                                  #privacy

                                  I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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                                  #20

                                  @RockyC aha this gives me a clue why some stuff is thinking I'm on a VPN and demanding I turn it off:

                                  > Your browser speaks English, your IP is in DE, and your clock is in a third place. That's not a traveller. That's a VPN.

                                  [narrator: that's not a VPN]

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                                  • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                    This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                                    #privacy

                                    I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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                                    failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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                                    #21

                                    @RockyC

                                    many years ago I read that since so few people have a privacy extension in their browser, that if yo have one it make tracking you much much easier

                                    LOL

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                                    • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                      This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                                      #privacy

                                      I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

                                      cogitoblood@fairy.idC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #22

                                      RE: https://fosstodon.org/@RockyC/117059376370160807

                                      Hope this can be mitigated one day

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                                      • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                        This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                                        #privacy

                                        I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

                                        connynasch@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #23

                                        @RockyC I opened it because I did not read the link: *kuber.studio/cookie/* kind of logical follow-up is the cookie?

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                                        • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                          This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                                          #privacy

                                          I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

                                          jasper@mastodon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #24

                                          @RockyC this site needs javascript to work. But i am sure some of this information does not.

                                          "You wiped sessionStorage, window.name, but localStorage, IndexedDB, Cache Storage still held the tag."(edit: later after waiting for the addon to actually clear it, it was just Cache Storage)
                                          Cookie Autodelete failed me? Turned out deleting cache storage was disabled, but enabling it is not fixing it so far.. It's also annoying because probably it might be done without javascript also? (like add a unique url to be cached and see if it is there?)

                                          Also my bubblewrap sandbox could hide fonts i guess?

                                          Bit surprised Librewolf has cross-site referrers on by default. I turned on letterboxing, it did get some info wrong based on that. (maybe for sites i like, i want to give referrers in order to promote them lol)

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