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  • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

    #privacy

    I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

    jgrg@mstdn.scienceJ goblinquester@dice.campG ingo_wichmann@digitalcourage.socialI drewph@ieji.deD marcusgreen@fosstodon.orgM 24 Replies Last reply
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    • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

      This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

      #privacy

      I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

      jgrg@mstdn.scienceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @RockyC Nice demo of how fingerprinting works. It did get many of the details wrong, which doesn't matter for fingerprinting, but made it feel less scary.

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      • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

        This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

        #privacy

        I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

        goblinquester@dice.campG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @RockyC Well .... it got most details things wrong, and was only in general stuff vageuly correct ... so if that is significant for every visitor I guess we are still a bit safe without the cookies.

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        • goblinquester@dice.campG goblinquester@dice.camp

          @RockyC Well .... it got most details things wrong, and was only in general stuff vageuly correct ... so if that is significant for every visitor I guess we are still a bit safe without the cookies.

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          #4

          @GoblinQuester It doesn't matter if the details are wrong. What matters is that they are consistent. That allows them to build a profile and follow you regardless.

          goblinquester@dice.campG boud@framapiaf.orgB edbruce@infosec.exchangeE 3 Replies Last reply
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          • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

            This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

            #privacy

            I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

            ingo_wichmann@digitalcourage.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @RockyC I've tested it with Tor-Browser on Linux and Android. I got
            "roughly 1 in 120.0 million browsers look like yours."
            in both cases.

            Did anybody else try with Tor-Browser?

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            • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

              This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

              #privacy

              I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

              drewph@ieji.deD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @RockyC
              It said "this page asked for zero permissions." That's an outright lie. It asked to create a webGL context, which my browser (Librewolf) let me decline.

              And it got a lot wrong, including my computer type, public IP address, screen resolution (twice) and trackpad. So I'll sleep OK tonight.

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              • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                #privacy

                I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

                marcusgreen@fosstodon.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @RockyC

                It is impressive, but I dislike how the ideas are expressed.

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                • ingo_wichmann@digitalcourage.socialI ingo_wichmann@digitalcourage.social

                  @RockyC I've tested it with Tor-Browser on Linux and Android. I got
                  "roughly 1 in 120.0 million browsers look like yours."
                  in both cases.

                  Did anybody else try with Tor-Browser?

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                  #8

                  @ingo_wichmann I got 1 in 130 million on Zen with Privacy Badger and UBlock Origin installed, and 1 in 120.6 million on FireDragon. Interesting.

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                  • drewph@ieji.deD drewph@ieji.de

                    @RockyC
                    It said "this page asked for zero permissions." That's an outright lie. It asked to create a webGL context, which my browser (Librewolf) let me decline.

                    And it got a lot wrong, including my computer type, public IP address, screen resolution (twice) and trackpad. So I'll sleep OK tonight.

                    rockyc@fosstodon.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @drewph Technically, Librewolf did the asking, not the web page.

                    It doesn't matter that the data is wrong, only that it is unique and identifiable. They can still track you across websites and build a profile. I set Librewolf to its strictest mode, reloaded the page, and it welcomed me back to my second visit.

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                    • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                      This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                      #privacy

                      I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

                      penguin42@mastodon.org.ukP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @RockyC hth do I have that many text-to-speech voices?!

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                      • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                        This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                        #privacy

                        I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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                        #11

                        @RockyC Really, anybody's is still impressed by that?

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                        • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                          @GoblinQuester It doesn't matter if the details are wrong. What matters is that they are consistent. That allows them to build a profile and follow you regardless.

                          goblinquester@dice.campG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @RockyC True dat, if it is consistent ...

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                            #13

                            @mherbert @RockyC

                            the test on webpage doesn't seem to work with me. It just keeps reloading. I'm guessing its my browsers privacy settings stopping it

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                            • flying_squirrelog@mastodon.socialF flying_squirrelog@mastodon.social

                              @mherbert @RockyC

                              the test on webpage doesn't seem to work with me. It just keeps reloading. I'm guessing its my browsers privacy settings stopping it

                              rockyc@fosstodon.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @Flying_SquirrelOG @mherbert And if you use noscript, it doesn't load at all.

                              flying_squirrelog@mastodon.socialF akkana@fosstodon.orgA 2 Replies Last reply
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                              • flying_squirrelog@mastodon.socialF flying_squirrelog@mastodon.social

                                @mherbert @RockyC

                                the test on webpage doesn't seem to work with me. It just keeps reloading. I'm guessing its my browsers privacy settings stopping it

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                                #15

                                @mherbert @RockyC

                                In regards to rockys test , a custom user agent was set but the original user agent showed. Then changed a setting, now it shows the custom.

                                Thank you because otherwise would have never known about it.

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                                • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                  @drewph Technically, Librewolf did the asking, not the web page.

                                  It doesn't matter that the data is wrong, only that it is unique and identifiable. They can still track you across websites and build a profile. I set Librewolf to its strictest mode, reloaded the page, and it welcomed me back to my second visit.

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                                  #16

                                  @RockyC
                                  So presumably the answer is to randomise things frequently - like reporting a fake resolution, a different platform, frequent change of VPN location, etc.

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                                  • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                    @Flying_SquirrelOG @mherbert And if you use noscript, it doesn't load at all.

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                                    #17

                                    @RockyC @mherbert
                                    Java is still running but have alot of other features in use.

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                                    • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                      This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                                      #privacy

                                      I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

                                      mkitos@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @RockyC Most of the comments are about the tool not working correctly or portrayed wrong. Yes it might be the case if you are into privacy and stuff but once think from a perspective of an average internet user with little to no knowledge about privacy. If you show it to them they will surely get interested and look into privacy.
                                      Kudos to the developers 🤝 will surely incorporate this into our next awareness session.
                                      Thanks for sharing

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                                      • drewph@ieji.deD drewph@ieji.de

                                        @RockyC
                                        So presumably the answer is to randomise things frequently - like reporting a fake resolution, a different platform, frequent change of VPN location, etc.

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                                        #19

                                        @drewph That's what I was thinking.

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                                        • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                          This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                                          #privacy

                                          I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

                                          benc@mastodon.hawaga.org.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @RockyC aha this gives me a clue why some stuff is thinking I'm on a VPN and demanding I turn it off:

                                          > Your browser speaks English, your IP is in DE, and your clock is in a third place. That's not a traveller. That's a VPN.

                                          [narrator: that's not a VPN]

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