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  3. Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day.

Google has captured a large segment of the education market with Google Classroom and it's the most primitive software I use every single day.

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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

    *panting holing on to the arms of the chair*

    "I could make a better LMS than this! It's just a database pointing to a file storage system with a calendar! I could do it!"

    I wait for the feeling to pass, but it has been happening more frequently. In the corner of the room a little demon whispers "do it, do it on apache and use PHP and mySQL, you know the way"

    I shake my head holding back the tears. I do not practice those dark arts any longer...

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    @futurebird So, so many applications give me this itch, particularity business-related applications. "This is literally just the front end on a database. How did they screw this up so badly?" And it's not even that I don't understand the process well enough because I've been steeped in it for years. I know what it needs to do, I know the edge cases, etc. Give me a few months and I could do this!

    But then I withdraw for a time, and leave Middle-Earth to its fate.

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      @LJ

      So much of it was made by people doing their very best, pushing the hardware to the limit. It was really elegant in many ways.

      It occurs to me that we have never or maybe only rarely seen what it'd mean for modern hardware to be "pushed to its limits" like that.

      Think of what might be possible.

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      #72

      @futurebird @LJ My favourite example of this is the rainbow effects generator for the Spectrum. It literally looks impossible for the hardware to do it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum_graphic_modes#Software_Hi-Colour

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        *panting holing on to the arms of the chair*

        "I could make a better LMS than this! It's just a database pointing to a file storage system with a calendar! I could do it!"

        I wait for the feeling to pass, but it has been happening more frequently. In the corner of the room a little demon whispers "do it, do it on apache and use PHP and mySQL, you know the way"

        I shake my head holding back the tears. I do not practice those dark arts any longer...

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        #73

        @futurebird I remember when #SharePoint first came out and everyone thought I was a crazyperson because I kept yelling "It's just wiki! I was doing this for my classes last year! Why can't you see this? IT'S A WIKI!"

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          *panting holing on to the arms of the chair*

          "I could make a better LMS than this! It's just a database pointing to a file storage system with a calendar! I could do it!"

          I wait for the feeling to pass, but it has been happening more frequently. In the corner of the room a little demon whispers "do it, do it on apache and use PHP and mySQL, you know the way"

          I shake my head holding back the tears. I do not practice those dark arts any longer...

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          #74

          @futurebird Don’t do it. You don’t want to end up the admin of your own platform where everything really is your fault. It’s much better to come here and bitch about someone else’s software.

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          • mdhughes@appdot.netM mdhughes@appdot.net

            @futurebird People choose to use Minecraft mods, based on utility & convenience.

            Nobody chooses a Google or Microsoft product, it's forced by IT.

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            #75

            @mdhughes
            Software is sold to Finance bros and other execs. IT is told what to do and we do it, and then hear from everyone about how shit it all is.

            The admin side of Google education/classroom is a mess. Licenses are bought in batches and you'd better have enough student ones to cover all the "free" licenses for the staff.
            @futurebird

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            • princeofdenmark@mas.toP princeofdenmark@mas.to

              @futurebird Squint a little, and that “demon” starts looking like your better angel instead…

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              #76

              @PrinceOfDenmark

              They are so often fallen angles aren't they? But do we forget why they have fallen?

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                *panting holing on to the arms of the chair*

                "I could make a better LMS than this! It's just a database pointing to a file storage system with a calendar! I could do it!"

                I wait for the feeling to pass, but it has been happening more frequently. In the corner of the room a little demon whispers "do it, do it on apache and use PHP and mySQL, you know the way"

                I shake my head holding back the tears. I do not practice those dark arts any longer...

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                #77

                @futurebird have you ever tried moodle? I used it a little when I took an instructional design class that used it and then used it to run a course once. It worked pretty well for what I needed, though I didn't use many of the features. Many cpanel hosts (like @reclaimhosting ) offer a one click install

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  @PrinceOfDenmark

                  They are so often fallen angles aren't they? But do we forget why they have fallen?

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                  #78

                  @futurebird For thinking maybe *they* should be in charge?

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    @dlakelan

                    Carving the geometry assignment on the wall would be very similar TBH.

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                    #79

                    @dlakelan

                    Speaking of "old textbooks" I have an unverified notion that these carvings of animal footprints might have served as some kind of textbook or learning aid.

                    It's just a notion, but considering how accurate the representations are I think it's worth considering if this library of animal footprints was used to train young people about the fauna of their region.

                    https://futurebird.tumblr.com/post/740768198010535936/is-this-the-first-human-made-textbook

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      @dlakelan

                      Speaking of "old textbooks" I have an unverified notion that these carvings of animal footprints might have served as some kind of textbook or learning aid.

                      It's just a notion, but considering how accurate the representations are I think it's worth considering if this library of animal footprints was used to train young people about the fauna of their region.

                      https://futurebird.tumblr.com/post/740768198010535936/is-this-the-first-human-made-textbook

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                      #80

                      @dlakelan

                      There is a bit of "hammer sees nothing but nails" about my thinking here. Since I'm a teacher I tend to think "this would be really great for teaching" probably too often.

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        @dlakelan

                        Speaking of "old textbooks" I have an unverified notion that these carvings of animal footprints might have served as some kind of textbook or learning aid.

                        It's just a notion, but considering how accurate the representations are I think it's worth considering if this library of animal footprints was used to train young people about the fauna of their region.

                        https://futurebird.tumblr.com/post/740768198010535936/is-this-the-first-human-made-textbook

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                        #81

                        @futurebird @dlakelan I like that idea, makes a lot of sense.

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                        • lj@sunny.gardenL lj@sunny.garden

                          @futurebird i so miss palm os. Sigh.

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                          #82

                          @LJ@sunny.garden @futurebird@sauropods.win isn’t PalmOS that software that Lucky Goldstar currently use to spy on everyone through the television?

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                          • neckspike@indiepocalypse.socialN neckspike@indiepocalypse.social

                            @futurebird @dlakelan I like that idea, makes a lot of sense.

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                            @neckspike @dlakelan

                            Think about how much would be lost if your best tracker died. But if you have something like this you could save some of the hard-won expertise for the next generation.

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              @LJ

                              So much of it was made by people doing their very best, pushing the hardware to the limit. It was really elegant in many ways.

                              It occurs to me that we have never or maybe only rarely seen what it'd mean for modern hardware to be "pushed to its limits" like that.

                              Think of what might be possible.

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                              @futurebird @LJ
                              The thing I always thing about when hearing descriptions like that is Pokemon for the original Gameboy

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                              • nirak@carhenge.clubN nirak@carhenge.club

                                @futurebird have you ever tried moodle? I used it a little when I took an instructional design class that used it and then used it to run a course once. It worked pretty well for what I needed, though I didn't use many of the features. Many cpanel hosts (like @reclaimhosting ) offer a one click install

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                                @nirak @reclaimhosting

                                I have not tried moodle, do you use it?

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                                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                  @PrinceOfDenmark

                                  They are so often fallen angles aren't they? But do we forget why they have fallen?

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                                  #86

                                  @futurebird Perhaps they’re only demons if they lose.

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                                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                    @nirak @reclaimhosting

                                    I have not tried moodle, do you use it?

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                                    @futurebird @nirak @reclaimhosting I use GC every day, and run my own Moodle instance. Moodle is very powerful, but not as easy to use as GC. Only now getting integration with office functions.

                                    Every teacher, every day, can use GC (we're a GSuite school, with Msft AD locally) I don't not see a way to get my colleagues to use Moodle in the same way.
                                    GC lacks search(!) , and is clunky, yes, but the problem is complex. Moodle has 500+ tables, iirc. It's worth exploring. Big in Germany.

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