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Most city dwellers don't know how much of the night sky has already been stolen by billionaires, because poorly planned, wasteful city lights have already drowned out the stars for them.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

    For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

    Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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    #123

    @sundogplanets I was on a hiking trip on an island in Lake Michigan. There had been a strong thunderstorm late evening and I got up after it blew through, 1 or 2am. The storm had really cleared the air and the stars were like bright jewels in the sky, so clear it felt like I could reach up and touch them. It was magical.

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

      For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

      Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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      #124

      @sundogplanets I did a uni gap year in British Columbia, and some friends and I drove from Vancouver up through BC and the Yukon into Alaska, then down the Kenai Peninsular and back - camping along the way. Somewhere on the Alaska side on that trip we were in the middle of nowhere and treated to an amazing Aurora

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Oh I should add to my own personal list: the multiple aurora shows over the past couple of years that I've been able to see from my own house! May 2024 and especially November 2025 were completely mind-blowing.

        I found myself joyously whooping and yelling at the sky. I kept thinking of the Cree name for a really active aurora show, cı̂payak kâ-nı̂mihitocik, which translates to "the ancestors are dancing". It was truly an emotionally powerful event to bear witness to.

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        #125

        I am TOTALLY enjoying reading all these stories of awe and wonder as we get to gaze over "infinity's doorstep" with our own eyes.

        This is what I am fighting for! This is what I want everyone to be able to do! It often feels like nobody cares about losing the sky, so reading how much it means to lots of people is incredibly energizing. Thank you, keep the stories coming.

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

          For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

          Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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          #126

          @sundogplanets

          Cayonlands, UT, spring 1997. Backpacked about 2 days in. No moon.

          Comet Hale-Bopp.

          The comet’s tail, not just visible to the naked eye but •vivid•, spanned at least 1/3 the width of the visible sky.

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          • dpnash@c.imD dpnash@c.im

            @sundogplanets Specific example: I’d been doing amateur astronomy actively as a hobby for about a decade by then, and was quite comfortable finding my way around the sky without a reference, even in ultra dark skies with too many stars to count.

            One night at that particular star party, I found myself looking at a bright star that I couldn’t quite identify. It took me a minute or so to realize that I was looking at Polaris.

            The sky was *so* dark that the stars of the Little Dipper (Ursa Minor) were almost completely swamped by dozens of other stars nearby that are completely invisible from the city and even not readily visible from “ordinary” dark sites. You’d think the stars of the Little Dipper (though kind of dim by overall star brightness standards) would be bright enough to be clear under such a dark sky. From a kind of, sort of, dark sky, sure, that’s what you experience—but from there, they were literally swamped almost beyond recognition.

            The kind of sky where you almost feel you need to hold onto something because you feel like you’ll float off and drown in the stars if you’re not careful.

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            #127

            @dpnash @sundogplanets I had the same experience at a dark sky site in Indiana! I couldn't easily navigate because there were so many stars I couldn't find my reference points.
            My favorite part was the dust clouds in the Milky Way. They were so clear they looked 3D! Like, it looked like there was a freaking giant cloud of dust in front of the stars!!!

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

              For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

              Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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              #128

              @sundogplanets overnight dive boat at the great barrier reef. Not just the total lack of light, but combined with the unfamiliar southern sky is a view I'll never forget.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                I am TOTALLY enjoying reading all these stories of awe and wonder as we get to gaze over "infinity's doorstep" with our own eyes.

                This is what I am fighting for! This is what I want everyone to be able to do! It often feels like nobody cares about losing the sky, so reading how much it means to lots of people is incredibly energizing. Thank you, keep the stories coming.

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                #129

                @sundogplanets
                Best night sky I remember was when I was young, falling asleep with the curtains open, while living up in the Rockies of BC . We lived far from cities back in the very early 1960s

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                  For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                  Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                  #130

                  @sundogplanets looking at the Milky Way from the Maunakea observatory parking lot with the local amateur telescope club.
                  Funny story, someone got altitude sickness from the ascent and barfed in the rental car.

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Oh I should add to my own personal list: the multiple aurora shows over the past couple of years that I've been able to see from my own house! May 2024 and especially November 2025 were completely mind-blowing.

                    I found myself joyously whooping and yelling at the sky. I kept thinking of the Cree name for a really active aurora show, cı̂payak kâ-nı̂mihitocik, which translates to "the ancestors are dancing". It was truly an emotionally powerful event to bear witness to.

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                    #131

                    @sundogplanets I posted in a different comment about seeing the clouds in the Milky Way from a dark sky site in Indiana, but my second favorite would absolutely be when we got engaged under the Perseids on Natural Bridge.
                    We were camping and had trouble finding a place with visible sky thriugh the canopy. Finally decided to go to Natural Bridge to watch. Unfortunately thick fog rolled in around evening. We hiked anyway, and the bridge got us just above the cloud cover into the clear.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                      For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                      Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                      #132

                      @sundogplanets I went to university in the middle of nowhere, USA. I want to avoid a little doxxing heh, but trust and believe, it was remote. One benefit was if you got far enough away from even our small college town, you could see absolutely everything. And one night, during a Pride club retreat that some lovely older lesbians hosted at their cabin, we all climbed a very small mountain, and I got to see the Milky Way for the first time with my own eyes. I'll never forget that moment.

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                        For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                        Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                        #133

                        @sundogplanets On a family summer vacation in the middle of nowhere in Alberta (maybe Kananaskis Country? it was a long, long time ago), we saw the most amazing showing of the Aurora Borealis.

                        It was breathtaking, astonishing, magical.

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                        • artemis201@mstdn.socialA artemis201@mstdn.social

                          @sundogplanets I posted in a different comment about seeing the clouds in the Milky Way from a dark sky site in Indiana, but my second favorite would absolutely be when we got engaged under the Perseids on Natural Bridge.
                          We were camping and had trouble finding a place with visible sky thriugh the canopy. Finally decided to go to Natural Bridge to watch. Unfortunately thick fog rolled in around evening. We hiked anyway, and the bridge got us just above the cloud cover into the clear.

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                          #134

                          @sundogplanets It was gorgeously clear above us, and the fog bank below us spread out like a blanket, with glowing patches where the towns were.
                          We lay down on the bridge and watched the meteors for a while, until my then-boyfriend pulled me away to the side to propose.

                          So that's how I got engaged, covered in sweat and sunscreen and bug spray above a fog cloud under a meteor shower on Natural Bridge.

                          (Bonus, the park closed at dusk so technically against the rules)

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                            For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                            Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                            #135

                            @sundogplanets The North Shore of Lake Superior, just west of the Split Rock Lighthouse, late June. We lucked into low moisture overhead and the lake itself wasn't fogging much. I saw that 30 years ago and was the deepest sky I had ever seen. Pick one spot and stare, and it kept going. We saw gegenshein before I knew what it was.

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/117063592703392163

                              Most city dwellers don't know how much of the night sky has already been stolen by billionaires, because poorly planned, wasteful city lights have already drowned out the stars for them.

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                              @sundogplanets When we went in Edmonton from sodium lights that I reckoned were already too bright to *far* brighter and whiter LED lights it was such a hit. My neighborhood by happenstance ended up last on the replacement cycle and it was shocking how much of a difference it made to the night sky to return to my neighborhood.

                              Our culture seems to be in a war against darkness and natural light. It seems like most new houses I see around are built with permanently-on outdoor lighting 😞
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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                #137

                                @sundogplanets

                                Utah badlands

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                  For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                  Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                  #138

                                  @sundogplanets it would have to be a tie between two very different landscapes: the Milky Way over the back side of the Tetons right below timberline in the summer; and gazing at Orion around midnight on the beach at Tybee Island, on the Atlantic coast east of Savannah, Georgia in the winter. Spectacular, both of them.

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                                  • em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social

                                    @sundogplanets Yes exactly. I also came across this article (on mastodon) which I think more people should read about “urban lighting” & how we’re not doing it correctly. I found it interesting (and not surprising to me) that there is significant evidence that “crime” doesn’t really “go down” because of “lighting up the night”.

                                    https://mastodon.social/@kottke/116970231035972639

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                                    #139
                                    @em_and_future_cats @sundogplanets "The more bad light we add, the more bad light we think we need" is such a succinct and damning summation of the approach to lighting our culture has taken over the past decades.
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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                      For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                      Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                      #140

                                      @sundogplanets

                                      Visiting family near the north end of Lake Diefenbaker in rural Saskatchewan right now. Looks like it will be a clear night.

                                      Experienced the most amazing skies on extended canoe trips in northeastern Manitoba. We would notice one or two satellites each night which seemed cool at the time.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                        For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                        Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                        #141

                                        @sundogplanets

                                        Lying on my back in a sheep paddock near Lake King in Western Australia.

                                        https://maps.app.goo.gl/sdcpiEye4cGJMPKT9

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                          For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                          Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                          #142

                                          @sundogplanets Three summers at Lodge Pole in Sequoia National Park, California, USA. Lived in developed park area but with very few outside lights and about 6400 ft elevation. Amazing clear skys and Milky Way views most nights.

                                          Spent one Winter in the middle of the Mojave at about 4500 ft elevation. Amazing sky almost every night AND a astounding display of the Leonids Meteor Shower.

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